OK gentlemen, yes I reckon im the worse for hi-jacking.... but I think we need our own kinda lounge thread where we can feel a little more at home. the rest of the board is fun... but I really feel like a step child out there cause im Hybrid... and carb turbo..... dont really fit the rest of the crowd. Anyways...... if its cool with yous guys.... maybe we could just update our progress and BS about other stufrf and not ruin real tech threads. does that sound ok? Charlie what do you think? Anyways..... I will start by continuing the chat we started on Mikes 79 sport coupe thread. Can you Imagine an all B4B meet? it would be real interesting to see how many other b4b cars are hidden out there! sounds like a definite plan! A.j.