They wont work for Phil because we use a wet sump. The pick-up is in the pan is external via -12 line and the feed is external. That plate just bypasses the factory filter housing. Still requires oil to be picked up threw the block and fed threw the block. I think this cover is much less restrictive than the factory cover and could probably get the job done without the external oiling. My plan is to make a few of these covers in kit form. I have had no luck on buying the 3800 covers at the junk yards they will not separate from the engines.