Quickest e85 powered v6 Buick list

Discussion in 'E85 Technical Forum' started by KevinB, Jul 18, 2011.

  1. KevinB

    KevinB Well-Known Member

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    Keep us updated on that monster!
     
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    KevinB Well-Known Member

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    That sounds cool. Got any pics of the car?
     
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  3. murphinator

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    just curious is it running a stock series II 3800 rotating assembly still ? I know zzp ran 8.6 on a stock block /rotating assembly in their FWD car and it would stand to reason on straight ethanol and in a tube chassis car one could go faster on stock rotating assm. /block

    your also not far off from the series II 3800 record of 7.9......
     
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  4. marleyskater420

    marleyskater420 still needs to learn

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    wait am I missing something here? The 3800 buick engine's stock assembly can support power into the 8s? I feel like I am so lost right now (very common for me :p )
     
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  5. murphinator

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    the series 2 & 3 3800 out of FWD 97+ as well as v6 f bodies of the same years can and have... stock short block other than cam/chain has been 8.6 , he mentioned his car is series 2 powered , they were developed for forced induction.... cross bolted mains , roller valvetrain , coated pistons ,etc..whole parts cars with good running engines can be had for $400-500

    here is a link of a teardown: L67 Engine Teardown - Thrasher Engineered Performance 3800 & 3800SC Pontiac Grand Prix GTP & Buick Regal GS

    grand national engines are fabulous but Buick learned a lot from them that got applied to engines developed later , I have seen several people on here say stock s2 3800 engines are similar to a stage 2 build of a 3.8
     
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    KevinB Well-Known Member

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    I thought he meant stage 2. If he means series 2...I definitely want to know more!
     
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  7. murphinator

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    that could be also lol , wouldnt be the first time I was mistaken
     
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  8. marleyskater420

    marleyskater420 still needs to learn

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    no I meant series 2.

    man those engines sound sweet!
     
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  9. vlzman

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    I meant stage II engine actually, sorry if I didn't express myself correctly :)
    Got few photos here vkmmotors and some vids on my youtube channel.
     
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    What oil do you add to the fuel??


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  11. marleyskater420

    marleyskater420 still needs to learn

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    Klotz and redline both have fuel lubricants for methanol/e85 fuels. I think redline's has different scents to it. (cherry, etc)
     
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  12. vlzman

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    I use VP M2 lubricant.
     
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    northerngn Master Monkeywrench

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    Any spec on lube to fuel mix ratios?
    how much lube added per fill up?
    VERY interested
     
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  14. KevinB

    KevinB Well-Known Member

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    I used half a bottle of marvels mystery oil to 15 gallons. I have seen some say the gasoline acts as a lubricant and additional is not needed. Don't know its its true....but it would only have 15% of the lubricants of normal gas.
     
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  15. vlzman

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    There's a special cap that comes with the lube bottle. I use 1 1/2 cap to 30 litres of E100 - I'm in Europe, don't know how much is a gallon :)
     
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  16. Ttype6

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    7.9 Gallons.
     
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  17. blackv6

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    So can a series 2 engine block out of a comaro work in our cars
     
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    yeah i know saw the subject brought up thought id ask
     
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  20. murphinator

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    rwd & fwd series 2 NA & SC share the same block but the fwd L67/l32 is set up to deal with boost better , thicker between the ring lands , lower compression , and coated pistons.

    the series 2 short block is pretty stout-gm engineers introduced the SC version about a year before the LS1 and it is similarly durable in stock form - stock block & rotating assembly has been 8.6 @159 in a fwd GP. There is beginning to be an acceptance of e85 in the series 2 circles but I dont know of a specific build to point to among the fastest cars running a series 2 , as soon as I find one I will post it in here for reference.
     
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