Tso Top Gun Point Series

Discussion in 'TSO Rules and Regulations' started by turbobuick, Dec 20, 2006.

  1. Otto J www.ottosperformance.com

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    My point is thats why I wasnt winning or setting records.I could only afford to spent what i had to get the car out and in the mix,Some guys have more to spend than others.Most of the time those guys will be the fastest.That not chicken **** at all.I always gave props to the guys that did even yourself.
    BTW Props on that new mph,170+:eek: You werent kidding when you said you have more left
    Thats gotta be over 200+ more HP than I made.

    As far as ring gears,One set i got for free cause it was used,the other i got for cost.(No high dollar 9" in my car):)
  2. EightSecV6 MDBL

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    I think it would be MUCH better to remove the penalty from the T5 flange!
  3. Otto J www.ottosperformance.com

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    HAHAHAHAHA
  4. Otto J www.ottosperformance.com

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    Get that idea emailed to the rule makers!
    That T4 guy proved they can run faster than T5 guys170+ out of a T4 flange:eek:
    Thats nuts.
    Time to update that sig Ted.Congrats again,Thats just plain sick!
  5. turbobuick Member

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    I agree next year should be exciting. We have three cars over 160mph in competition 2 in testing and 2 or 3 more that are talking a big game for next year, should be fun.

    Norwalk in June is a WHOLE lot different than Cecil or Atco in November.
  6. turbobuick Member

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    Otto,
    It is time more than money just ask my wife:redface: If you would've stuck with it you may have found a whole lot more in your combo. I won't lie it isn't cheap either but you can't just go out an buy all the best parts money can buy and expect it to just all magically work. I can't count how many gear, TQ conv and cam swaps I've done to get everything perfectly matched. I'm still not convinced it is 100% right yet and I still haven't won a race but I'll be back next year.
  7. Lee_Burough ..Never Forget..

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    I think you are doing fine with your thoughts :) Just try to avoid emulating the words and personal attacks of a few writers in this thread. :)
  8. SGRIM Owner/Admin TB.com

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    Please keep this on track guys and leave the smack talking out please:biggrin:
  9. Buicksx2 RCA: Home of the The Jack

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    I am looking forward to next year also.
  10. Otto J www.ottosperformance.com

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  11. V6gofast New Member

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    Tso

    Gee it's kind of sad that we were the first TSO legal car to go over 160 in
    competition in 2600 DA air and now we're not even mentioned as a player,
    thanks JW! I also want to thank DF for forcing us to retire our 10 year old
    engine with a improved version of Ted's piece maybe even a full stage 2
    .:eek: All this stuff is kinda funny keeps the winter boredom to a minimum.
    Otto can I also claim Don Cruz and Jason White as they are both using DLS
    stroker kits and Don also has our TSM custom cam. I was going to add to
    my sig but 2 time Buicks at Bristol winner , 2005 GSCA TSO Champ and record
    holder 2005&2007, the home of the longest standing TSM record holder ,the
    current TSO legal record holder, soon to be the fastest V6 Buick in world
    (Schmidt) would just take up to much room and I don't like to brag as I was
    only a small part of all of these racers success .
  12. TurboDiverArt The Guru Thorn

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    Otto,

    I'm not really sure I understand your post. I stated that EITHER, you, Tony or Cal heard from Dave that there was a rule email sent out by Chris. That's all I said. If you never heard about it from Dave then I still stand by my statement that either Cal or Tony did. I'll come out and say I heard from Richie about the email. It's no big deal, I would fully expect Dave to mention it to others as well.

    Art.
  13. TurboDiverArt The Guru Thorn

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    If there is no drama then no one will have a problem with clarifying the rules of the class. Time will tell. Now I will continue catching up on two days of posts.

    Art.
  14. TurboDiverArt The Guru Thorn

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    Otto,

    I agree with the above. I think the rules need to be clarified so the points series doesn't turn into a game of who has the most money wins. You can't play in that game and neither can I. That's why we both sold our cars. I'm happy that I have the opportunity to still race.

    From what I understand no one that was legal this year will be outlawed. From what I understand the rules are to be clarified so it's easy to police them and make sure no one is playing games.

    In my opinion it'll be no fun if every year someone needs to by a new turbo to stay competitive. Like with the BG rules I think people have a pretty good idea of what the limits of the class were. I think it's a good idea to make sure those limits are clearly defined and can be verified. If it becomes a class where the guy with the most money wins all the time no one will race and it'll be like years past where it's the same 4 guys racing each other at every event...

    Art.
  15. EightSecV6 MDBL

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    yes
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    Dan,

    I am getting old please forgive my omission as it was unintentional.
    Good luck next year...
  17. Otto J www.ottosperformance.com

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    YOu absolutlel should Dan,These guys are all accomplished racers with your input,And they always mention your involvement in their cars
    You should get a website going for your business and have all their cars listed there.
    Hell,You and your cars are no joke and they should be mentioned!

    I can wait if your coming out with a full stage 2 setup,A shakedown pass should be in the 170s fur sure.

    I think Ted should have went the full stage 2 route since he started from scratch.
  18. DFISCUS Member

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    wow!

    Who would of thought that a ditch digger could prompt DS to update his engine. I must be doing something right, maybe I've finally started making some power. I don't know if I'll do anything to my car over the winter or not as I kinda like being the underdog. With the cars all running together all I can hope for is this turns into a drivers race. Those are usually the best ones to watch anyway.

    Dave Fiscus
    Fiscus Trucking and Excavating
    Home of the 2007 TSO champ, Natalie, and two golden retievers!
  19. S2V6RACER Banned

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    We had the old GN-1R heads from the motor that blew up in BPG 06 and after a long talk with Dan while looking at Schmidts new pair of Chapman S2 heads, we decided the GN-1R heads would meet goal of 160+ and went with them. We expect more now we are using the TA heads.

    We know we can fall back on the Stage II heads if we need to, there is a set on the shelf ready to go. :eek:
  20. V6RACER The true 8 Second 109!

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    Suscribed... Didn't realize how I missed all this..

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