My nova that is a full 2x3 frame with a 14 point cage is about the same as the old weight. It really make a differnce if you use mild or moly. At the time the pile of tubing for mine was $500 ( steel was cheap then). But the same moly would have been 5 times that much. A light race car is 2000lbs and was laughed at by our chasis builder when I said mine was light at 2700. Weight needs to be thought of in every aspect including turning weight 1lbs=8lbs dead weight. So when I hear guys on the board talk about losing 200lbs off the car, I think 25 lbs turning weight. TC,driveshaft,rear diff, tires are easy to lose that.