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sure it will, just take it easy with those blue tops as they will be maxed out at 11.60's-11.70's. but you will need to run a better part of 23+boost to get you there, assuming you have all the other supporting mods,THDP,no cat,fuel pump,Big Neck I/C,160*stat,good valve springs,FPR,slicks,airbags,etc. with a good launch(5-10psi)and a good tune you can get in the 11's with no problem.just make sure you keep an eye on those o2's(760-790)is where you want them.ohh, and i guess you already have a scanmaster? any other questions.
Your stuff will more than get you there! I went 11.9's w/ stock turbo and 36'ers, on only 17psi boost, w/ 10psi launch in my old car.
It shouldn't take 23psi to do it, unless you're completely stock.
What fuel pump?
What chip?
Stock intercooler?
What exhaust? Open dump?
What downpipe?
Slicks?
Headwork?
Bottom line is --- different people get different results out of similar setups. Small changes can make big differences. Tuning is key!
It shouldn't take 23psi to do it, unless you're completely stock.
What fuel pump?
What chip?
Stock intercooler?
What exhaust? Open dump?
What downpipe?
Slicks?
Headwork?
Bottom line is --- different people get different results out of similar setups. Small changes can make big differences. Tuning is key!
No offense Cody, but, the amount of boost does not dictate what ET he will run. For example, my 11.91 was with only 17psi. There are many factors involved here.
This is a typical thread of --- "If I buy piece "X", and add piece "Y", will I run ET XX.XX?"
There are general recipes, but, there are no guarantees, per all of these other factors.
And, 23 psi may or may not max out those injectors, depending on the volume of air being pushed through at 23 psi. Again, there's more to it than just the 23psi number.
I hate to get anyone overly pumped up on a number that they should run, w/o hard facts to back it. You're far better off leaning towards the conservative number, and being excited if you exceed it, rather than trying to make a generic statement that a hard launch and 23psi will = at least 11.7x...
This is a typical thread of --- "If I buy piece "X", and add piece "Y", will I run ET XX.XX?"
There are general recipes, but, there are no guarantees, per all of these other factors.
And, 23 psi may or may not max out those injectors, depending on the volume of air being pushed through at 23 psi. Again, there's more to it than just the 23psi number.
I hate to get anyone overly pumped up on a number that they should run, w/o hard facts to back it. You're far better off leaning towards the conservative number, and being excited if you exceed it, rather than trying to make a generic statement that a hard launch and 23psi will = at least 11.7x...
well, i have seen lots of cars with similiar combos go easy 11's with the same stuff.i know the driver,weather,and elevation plays a role in the times drastically.and i know that he will probably not be able to run over 23-24psi with those Inj. and I/C.cause when i had my blue tops with my 49 i could barly run 18-19psi.reason being is cause i have a PTE FM, Cold Air Intake,free flowing exhaust,etc. so yes.you are correct about the volume of air and not the press. cause with different intake,I/C,chip combinations play a big role in how much boost one can run. but i was just givig him a ballpark.
Your reply is extremely misleading. 17 psi on the stock turbo
You neglect to mention the ported heads and/or cam. If you're not going to mention that, why bother telling a newbie anything at all. I also know guys who ran 11's with a stock turbo, and a bone stock longblock, but I assure you they were nowhere near 17psi (more like 23-24psi) and yes, they were launching the hell out of the car.To reply to the original post, yes a TA49 and bluetops are capable of getting you there but there is more to it than that. IMO if you don't already have the bluetops it would make more sense to go bigger, 50's being the minimum. No reason not to have a safety margin in there. If you already have the bluetops then max out what ya got and then upgrade.
Originally posted by c&cgn
Your reply is extremely misleading. 17 psi on the stock turbo
To reply to the original post, yes a TA49 and bluetops are capable of getting you there but there is more to it than that. IMO if you don't already have the bluetops it would make more sense to go bigger, 50's being the minimum. No reason not to have a safety margin in there. If you already have the bluetops then max out what ya got and then upgrade.
And did you bother to take the time to read above where I asked all of those questions to him? Good gosh, some of you folks seem to have a bad case of 'headupass'.
"YES", I had mildly self-ported heads, and a mild cam, and a BGC stretch for my 11.9's stock turbo 17psi run.
Again, read my comments - in context. I'm not looking to start an argument and overtake this poor guy's thread, which sadly is what is happening. I'm merely pointing out some viable data points. Also, Cody is a 17 year old kid, and I do like to "help" some of the younger guys who "know everything", by trying to point out some deeper things to consider. I've owned TR's since he was playing with Hot Wheel versions of them, so I'm kinda' offering a little time-earned experience. And "yes", I do tend to lean on the conservative side of ET estimates, so as to not build false hopes. And, if I make an ET prediction, it will be backed with data from my own and many other TR guru friend's experiences.
Of course though, we all know a guy, that knew a guy, that had a friend, who dated his sister, who knew a guy, that ran 4.50's @ 350mph, with only xxx & xxx & xxx...
sheesh...!As for UNGN's comments, having been a long time reader of his threads, I know he runs very well with probably less mods than others, simply because he fully understands what it takes to do it. He is "not the norm" in most cases, but rather, one of the more experienced, knowledgeable guys...
Now, if it will make you all happy, "YES", the newbie can run 11.7's with his setup. In fact, I hope he runs 11.20's, and makes us all shut the heck up!!!
Looking for a flame war are we??? No need to to start flinging the insults so soon. 
My only point directly to you was that 11.9's @ 17psi on a stock turbo makes you sound superhuman. It can't be done in a full weight TR with a bone stock longblock and there is no doubt about it. You have obviously been around long enough to know that so your example of "I only ran 17psi for my 11.9 run" is completly misleading to all the new guys. Tell the whole story of heads, cam, stretech IC etc and its not an issue, but most guys are talking about running 11's with a stock longblock.
And oddly enough, I happen to have ran 11.7's with the TA49 and bluetops, but if you read my post a little closer you'll see I suggest other options. I agree that being on the conservative side for ET's is better. Its the same reason I don't tell guys that want to run 10's that 50's and a single 340 pump will get them there, since I know that it was not enough to get me there and I wouldn't want to see someone hurt their car because they pushed it too much
No need to to start flinging the insults so soon. My only point directly to you was that 11.9's @ 17psi on a stock turbo makes you sound superhuman. It can't be done in a full weight TR with a bone stock longblock and there is no doubt about it. You have obviously been around long enough to know that so your example of "I only ran 17psi for my 11.9 run" is completly misleading to all the new guys. Tell the whole story of heads, cam, stretech IC etc and its not an issue, but most guys are talking about running 11's with a stock longblock.
And oddly enough, I happen to have ran 11.7's with the TA49 and bluetops, but if you read my post a little closer you'll see I suggest other options. I agree that being on the conservative side for ET's is better. Its the same reason I don't tell guys that want to run 10's that 50's and a single 340 pump will get them there, since I know that it was not enough to get me there and I wouldn't want to see someone hurt their car because they pushed it too much
Take it easy on Cody. He young, but he know's what he is doing. He has way more attention to detail than I had when I was 10 years older than him. His car is a show winner and runs pretty fast, too.
If the Goal is to run high 11's, Bluetops are a good choice. If you want to run Mid 11's or faster (or see ported heads in your future), definitely step up to 50# injectors.
If the Goal is to run high 11's, Bluetops are a good choice. If you want to run Mid 11's or faster (or see ported heads in your future), definitely step up to 50# injectors.
Blue tops will likely be fine, then. The only thing that limited me from running more 11 second passes was the track telling me to slow down for not having a rollbar.
Make sure to use a tall tire (27-28"). This will give you a little more mph that will make running 11's easier.
Make sure to use a tall tire (27-28"). This will give you a little more mph that will make running 11's easier.
