Not bragging here because I changed a lot of parts then got lucky. Its was the MAF sensor. Put one in tonite and went from 148 to 114. I chased around a vaccum leak forever and it was the MAF the whole time. The old MAF didnt have a screen could that have caused the problem? Also is 114 too low or should I just be happy with what I got? Now people can stand behind the car when its running :biggrin: