I know theres probably a few officers of the law that happen to have GNs and are on this board. I guess i want to take advantage of this and ask some officers what is the best way for me to NOT get pulled over. Is it mostly because Im young? Also, how do you guys check for speed for probable speeders?
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Don't be stupid... its as simple as that. Don't put any stupid neon lights are tinted plate covers on there. If you make it look like a kids car than you'll be targeted. Also, a 3" dual ATR exhaust with no cat will get their attention too. No need for a 6 cyl. to be loud.
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would a hooker cat back with no cat, a dump (thats always open) and no mufflers fall under that catagory?
the funny thing is i had a friend in a mx3 get pulled over last year. take note that my car idleing is louder then his car at full throttle, we were on the way to our school (technical school, a city over from our base school) a police officer let me go and ticketed him, he gave him a fixit ticket. he had a small tip on a stock mx3 exhaust, inorder to get out of the fixit ticket he had to get a muffler shop cut the end off of his exhaust pipe and weld on ANOTHER muffler, it looked strange as hell with a muffler commen out like a exhaust pipe he looked like a poor ricer.
Phil
Being a PO in northern NJ, my wisdom is don't be stupid. Just drive normal. We have to have reason, aleast in NJ, to stop a car. Also alot has to do with the area you live in.
Why would you be driving your car with an open dump anyway? You are looking to get stopped. I had a Hooker system with no cat and it sounded fine. I then replaced my mufflers with Magnaflows which made it sound better.
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Being a PO in northern NJ, my wisdom is don't be stupid. Just drive normal. We have to have reason, aleast in NJ, to stop a car. Also alot has to do with the area you live in.
Why would you be driving your car with an open dump anyway? You are looking to get stopped. I had a Hooker system with no cat and it sounded fine. I then replaced my mufflers with Magnaflows which made it sound better.
Billy T.
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Here ya go -
#1 - OBEY THE LAW.
#2 - don't put attention getting crap on the outside of your car
#3 - don't put attention getting crap on the inside of your car (things hanging from the mirror, pounding the hell out of your stereo etc...)
#4 - see #1
#1 - OBEY THE LAW.
#2 - don't put attention getting crap on the outside of your car
#3 - don't put attention getting crap on the inside of your car (things hanging from the mirror, pounding the hell out of your stereo etc...)
#4 - see #1
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i've only been pulled over once and belive me i do plenty of things i can get in lots of trouble for, the real key is thinking first. if you want to burn some rubber, its something you have to think about, so think and go out of town on some old un used road.
no traffic means no cops, which means your safER to do whatever you want.
just be smart on the streets, don't cut people off, use your turn signals, little things
and when you get pulled over, some day it will happen be as nice as possible to the cop without going overboard of corse. they don't have to give you a ticket.
a question for you cops, if you give someone a warning does it go in the computers? if someone has a bunch of warnings i'd think they would be more likely to get a ticket than someone with none, this is if it is saved i the computers.?
no traffic means no cops, which means your safER to do whatever you want.
just be smart on the streets, don't cut people off, use your turn signals, little things
and when you get pulled over, some day it will happen be as nice as possible to the cop without going overboard of corse. they don't have to give you a ticket.
a question for you cops, if you give someone a warning does it go in the computers? if someone has a bunch of warnings i'd think they would be more likely to get a ticket than someone with none, this is if it is saved i the computers.?
i got pulled over the other night for no real reason at all.
i have a hooker exhaust, but its quiet. my car is a limited that has stock wheels on it. no stickers.
only thing that gives the car a look are the drag radials that give it a slight rake, but thats it.
he pulled me over and tried to convince me i was speeding.
i wasnt speeding at all.
than he told me my exhaust was all modafied. i explained to him that it was a 15 year old car, and to have a rusted through rattle can exhaust would not be any quieter.
he let me off, but i was pissed because there was no real aparent reason to pull me over other than i was a kid driving late at night.
i have a hooker exhaust, but its quiet. my car is a limited that has stock wheels on it. no stickers.
only thing that gives the car a look are the drag radials that give it a slight rake, but thats it.
he pulled me over and tried to convince me i was speeding.
i wasnt speeding at all.
than he told me my exhaust was all modafied. i explained to him that it was a 15 year old car, and to have a rusted through rattle can exhaust would not be any quieter.
he let me off, but i was pissed because there was no real aparent reason to pull me over other than i was a kid driving late at night.
Not a cop but have friends that are and a wife that's a dispatcher for the Sheriff's office, I myself am a fireman. talk to the police, deputies, state troopers, who ever... make friends...friends become connections. Alot of those guys(gals) have cars too. If tinted windows are illegal and you have tinted windows, only have the sides tinted so they can atleast see in the back of the car when they get behind you. DON'T ACT STUPID.. STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES.
in Massachusetts, warnings are recorded but don't effect your insurance or go on your driving record. The only time a warning will come up is in the same town or city it was issued so that if you get pulled over again on the same road or area they'll definitley give you a ticket.
Just drive smart. Certain officers love working traffic and each seems to have a certain violation they love to stop (no front plate, expired stickers, speeding, etc.). Some look for violations to stop you to get at other things. Officers have discretion in writing you a ticket, warning or letting you go. If you display an attitude you will definately get a ticket and no breaks. Things that can help you - be courteous, stop with enough room that the officer can come to your door and not be out in traffic, put your car in park and turn off the engine, keep both hands on the steering wheel while the officer approaches, if your asked for your insurance and its in the glove box tell him its in there and you will be reaching inside to get it. It never hurts to give a donation to some type of law enforcement organization and you can display the sticker. In Texas we have the 100 hundred club. You give 100 a year and you get a a large sticker that goes on the back of your window that is color coordinated for the year you gave.
Many people have several stacked on one another. The money is a charity (tax deductible) and it goes for things like the officer's families in the event of the officers death, equipment, etc.
Many people have several stacked on one another. The money is a charity (tax deductible) and it goes for things like the officer's families in the event of the officers death, equipment, etc.
If at night, turn on the dome light, or any other light that is going to light up the interior so the officer can see inside your car (that you aren't pulling out a gun, hiding drugs, etc) I wouldn't say you HAVE to put your hands on the steering wheel (although it's as good a place as any) but the idea is that the officer can see your hands (that you aren't pulling out a gun, hiding drugs, etc) One thing that I do when I happen to be driving in a way that I might get pulled over is that I will have my license & my registration (has insurance info on it) where I can reach it easily so IF I get pulled over, I'll have it in my hand to give to the officer when they walk up to the window.
Think about this, lots of criminals who break the law, don't bother to fix tail lights, wear a seat belt, keep the license plate updated, etc, and with computers in a lot of police cars, a check for warrants is a quick punch of a few keys. If I decide I'm going to write someone a ticket, I'm going to need the information from the license, etc, anyway. You might feel justified to have an attitude because you feel you were pulled over without justifiable reason (and might very well be) but then if you happen to be "dirty" in some way, you'll probably be just as reluctant to show your driver's license as you would if you are only feeling to have been pulled over unjustly. Think about it from the point of view of the cop - how would the officer know the difference? So if instead, you're courteous, you have the license & info ready to hand over, you've pulled into a safe spot where the officer isn't in risk of being hit by traffic, you keep your hands in view, you've turned on the dome light (if at night) etc etc, your chances for getting warning would be much improved.
Technically, there has to be probable cause/ resonable suspicion to legally pull a car over (broken tail lights, not wearing seatbelt, expired license plate) and once you start with that, I might then find that insurance is expired, license is suspended, the smell of alchohol, that bit of a plastic bag under the seat...
NC (and probably other states) the law requires you to pull over for red or blue lights and siren (so at least in NC, if the cop never hits the siren and you don't have to stop, LEGALLY but then I dont' recommend driving like nothing is happening either) so an officer might not have anything truly justifiable to pull you over, but says "what the heck, let's see what I can find" so you're stuck for the moment, and if you cop an attitude and get a ticket, you might win in court if you can prove there was no probably cause to start with, but just think, you spent all of your own time (and if you hired a lawyer, $$$) to prove that you were right, while for mr policeman it is just another day on the job.
It's not surprising that people get upset because cops "cramped their style" but I guess I am in the somewhat unique position to see it from both sides. At this point (between jobs, and in addition, less than a year of experience) I'm trying not to cramp anyone style just because I can, and it is one of those thing I wonder about if I will later on or not, or if I'll even remember feeling this way or not, but I guess for that time will tell. But that's one thing that I'm saying, consider the cop's point of view. A cop might be walking up to a car filled with gang-bangers (can't see cause of that dark window tint) or just a nutcase with gun under the seat (couldn't see cause the dome light was turned off), maybe I've got a justifiable reason (or for others, maybe not) but all the same, all the possibilities are going through my mind. I get to the window, and the window rolls down and the driver says (with a nasty tone of voice) "What the F*** you pull me over for, F*** cop piece of S***..." I don't know if this is just a fine citizen having a bad day, or a mad-at-the-world psycho that's thinking he's going to try and kill himself a cop today. Either way, I'd like to go home at the end of my day, with no more holes in my body than what I showed up with - which is what I think most people would say if they were asked the same question. Now if the driver is doing everything to make me happy (I can see their hands, gives me license, & registration right away, etc) then I'm going to return the favor as much as I can. But like I said, this is me with less than a year of experience at this point. Even now, I can recognize (because I have seen it) how it's easy not to really care about your insurance going up because I write you this speeding ticket (but again, it wasn't me that forced you to speed) and I wonder if I'll become the same way later on.
Umm, enough with the soapbox...
Think about this, lots of criminals who break the law, don't bother to fix tail lights, wear a seat belt, keep the license plate updated, etc, and with computers in a lot of police cars, a check for warrants is a quick punch of a few keys. If I decide I'm going to write someone a ticket, I'm going to need the information from the license, etc, anyway. You might feel justified to have an attitude because you feel you were pulled over without justifiable reason (and might very well be) but then if you happen to be "dirty" in some way, you'll probably be just as reluctant to show your driver's license as you would if you are only feeling to have been pulled over unjustly. Think about it from the point of view of the cop - how would the officer know the difference? So if instead, you're courteous, you have the license & info ready to hand over, you've pulled into a safe spot where the officer isn't in risk of being hit by traffic, you keep your hands in view, you've turned on the dome light (if at night) etc etc, your chances for getting warning would be much improved.
Technically, there has to be probable cause/ resonable suspicion to legally pull a car over (broken tail lights, not wearing seatbelt, expired license plate) and once you start with that, I might then find that insurance is expired, license is suspended, the smell of alchohol, that bit of a plastic bag under the seat...
NC (and probably other states) the law requires you to pull over for red or blue lights and siren (so at least in NC, if the cop never hits the siren and you don't have to stop, LEGALLY but then I dont' recommend driving like nothing is happening either) so an officer might not have anything truly justifiable to pull you over, but says "what the heck, let's see what I can find" so you're stuck for the moment, and if you cop an attitude and get a ticket, you might win in court if you can prove there was no probably cause to start with, but just think, you spent all of your own time (and if you hired a lawyer, $$$) to prove that you were right, while for mr policeman it is just another day on the job.
It's not surprising that people get upset because cops "cramped their style" but I guess I am in the somewhat unique position to see it from both sides. At this point (between jobs, and in addition, less than a year of experience) I'm trying not to cramp anyone style just because I can, and it is one of those thing I wonder about if I will later on or not, or if I'll even remember feeling this way or not, but I guess for that time will tell. But that's one thing that I'm saying, consider the cop's point of view. A cop might be walking up to a car filled with gang-bangers (can't see cause of that dark window tint) or just a nutcase with gun under the seat (couldn't see cause the dome light was turned off), maybe I've got a justifiable reason (or for others, maybe not) but all the same, all the possibilities are going through my mind. I get to the window, and the window rolls down and the driver says (with a nasty tone of voice) "What the F*** you pull me over for, F*** cop piece of S***..." I don't know if this is just a fine citizen having a bad day, or a mad-at-the-world psycho that's thinking he's going to try and kill himself a cop today. Either way, I'd like to go home at the end of my day, with no more holes in my body than what I showed up with - which is what I think most people would say if they were asked the same question. Now if the driver is doing everything to make me happy (I can see their hands, gives me license, & registration right away, etc) then I'm going to return the favor as much as I can. But like I said, this is me with less than a year of experience at this point. Even now, I can recognize (because I have seen it) how it's easy not to really care about your insurance going up because I write you this speeding ticket (but again, it wasn't me that forced you to speed) and I wonder if I'll become the same way later on.
Umm, enough with the soapbox...
Summarized:
1. Take off window tint, and anything else (rims, accessories, etc) that makes your car resemble something a drug dealer would drive (if you are willing).
2. Make sure all your lights, tags, inspection stickers etc are current, or any other thing that could get you pulled over.
3. Obey all traffic laws to the best of your ability. Remember, if you are breaking a traffic law, you really don't have an arguement against getting a ticket.
4. If pulled over, find a spot that would be safe to stop, and pull away as far from the road as possible to lessen the danger to the officer of being struck by oncoming cars, etc.
5. Have anything the officer would want (license, registration, insurance card) ready to give to him/her.
5. Keep your hands where the officer can see them. (same for your passengers)
6. If at night, turn on the interior dome light, etc.
7. Be courteous
8. Accept the fact that some cops ARE buttholes, but remember, the more of a butthole you are to him/her...
9. Have a nice day!
1. Take off window tint, and anything else (rims, accessories, etc) that makes your car resemble something a drug dealer would drive (if you are willing).
2. Make sure all your lights, tags, inspection stickers etc are current, or any other thing that could get you pulled over.
3. Obey all traffic laws to the best of your ability. Remember, if you are breaking a traffic law, you really don't have an arguement against getting a ticket.
4. If pulled over, find a spot that would be safe to stop, and pull away as far from the road as possible to lessen the danger to the officer of being struck by oncoming cars, etc.
5. Have anything the officer would want (license, registration, insurance card) ready to give to him/her.
5. Keep your hands where the officer can see them. (same for your passengers)
6. If at night, turn on the interior dome light, etc.
7. Be courteous
8. Accept the fact that some cops ARE buttholes, but remember, the more of a butthole you are to him/her...
9. Have a nice day!
COOOL stuff.
I think the officers "smell" my attitude even though I dont usually talk back or anything.
DUMP is faster and its a PIA to change exhausts between races at track of course.
Thanks though, couple of those recommendations ill prolly actually use and i didnt think about before.
Funny thing is though, i got ALL of my tickets with a POS 89 6cyl tbird that was SLOW as a crown vic (hehe)!!!
I think the officers "smell" my attitude even though I dont usually talk back or anything.
DUMP is faster and its a PIA to change exhausts between races at track of course.
Thanks though, couple of those recommendations ill prolly actually use and i didnt think about before.
Funny thing is though, i got ALL of my tickets with a POS 89 6cyl tbird that was SLOW as a crown vic (hehe)!!!
Previous post by PhilM:
"I wouldnt suggest becoming a cop since all the dorks that came cops i went to school wit are total asses now. One of em gave me a ticket!! what the hell!? besides, theres too many of em now, esp. round here. Theyre supposed to protect the public, not bust people for stupid stuff to fill their quotas. Hope this starts major flames!!!"
"yea, if in Europe they dont fock around. They crack ya for almost nothin if they want. COPS STILL SUCK ASS THOUGH!!"
I think an attitude change would help.
If you think Law enforcement officers "SUCK ASS" why ask us for help?
"I wouldnt suggest becoming a cop since all the dorks that came cops i went to school wit are total asses now. One of em gave me a ticket!! what the hell!? besides, theres too many of em now, esp. round here. Theyre supposed to protect the public, not bust people for stupid stuff to fill their quotas. Hope this starts major flames!!!"
"yea, if in Europe they dont fock around. They crack ya for almost nothin if they want. COPS STILL SUCK ASS THOUGH!!"
I think an attitude change would help.
If you think Law enforcement officers "SUCK ASS" why ask us for help?
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I have so much money, when a cop pulls me over I tell him to write the ticket, and to enjoy his $40,000 job.
