President Kerry - A Bush Hater Challenge

[TurboJunky]

Hypotheitical-

Kerry's elected as the next US President (GASP). For you Bush haters, what EXACTLY will he do differently to fix what his predecessor "screwed up"?

Let's hear it!

 

[Foolis]

I am not a GWB hater by any stretch of the imagination. I was 100% behind crushing the Taliban, the Patriot Act, tighter security, and yes, I even believe in racial profiling, if one has nothing to hide, then whats the big deal.....

BUT

Iraq was a folly that GWB forced down the wolrds throat. And, I also think his admin did a $hitty job in the months leading up to Sept 11, and the fact that Conni Rice will not testify smells like stink.

Kerry is a dweeb, but the current cowboy is a loose cannon, he started the war on terror with the worlds blessing, but now he's pissing them off...........

I know, I know, "Who cares about what the world thinks!"

Troubled times ahead, I fear.


BT

 

[UNGN]

Originally posted by Foolis
Iraq was a folly that GWB forced down the wolrds throat. And, I also think his admin did a $hitty job in the months leading up to Sept 11, and the fact that Conni Rice will not testify smells like stink.

Condi Rice isn't testifying publically because it is ILLEGAL for a National security advisor to testify publically in before Congress. She DID testify privately and will again.

You'd think with ALL the alternative news media available to Canadians, you'd know this by now.

You don't have to believe me on this one, either. In a Senate hearing on Y2K in July 29, 1999, Richard Clarke, refused to testify for the very same reason the Condi Rice citing.

Here's the transcript from that meeting... decide for yourself...

by Senator Robert Bennett R-Utah


"I have some information to share with you which I'm sure will cause some consternation and disappointment.

"We were scheduled – at the beginning of this gathering we agreed not to call that portion of it a hearing – to have a briefing from Mr. Richard Clarke. And many of you have been notified that he would be here and as recently as yesterday afternoon when I was with him, we were looking forward to his appearance and he was sharing with me some of the areas that he planned to discuss while he was here.

"Mr. Clarke, as many of you know, is the national coordinator for security and infrastructure protection and counterterrorism on the National Security Council."

"Last night, into the evening, we were notified that the legal staff of the National Security Council had determined that it would be inappropriate for Mr. Clarke to appear. I have just spoken to him on the telephone. The rule apparently is that any member of the White House staff who has not been confirmed is not to be allowed to testify before the Congress. They can perform briefings, but they are not to give testimony. And that in response to that rule, Mr. Clarke will not be coming."

Sen. Bennett explained that Clarke had "apologized to me for their failure to tell us that in a way that would have prevented our putting out the press notice in advance.

"I do not, in any sense, attribute any improper motives to Mr. Clarke. We had understood that the briefing could be held as long as there was no record made of it so that it would not be part of the formal hearing. And we were prepared to receive his briefing with the court recorder being instructed not to make any record of it and that that would comply with the rule.

"As I say, last evening I received a call at home after the Senate had adjourned telling me that that arrangement would not be acceptable to the legal staff at the National Security Council and that Mr. Clarke, therefore, would not be here."

In Sen. Bennett's concluding remarks on the subject, he said that Clarke had offered to "come before the committee and give us whatever information we wanted in a closed briefing."

gee... just like Condi has done and has offered to do again...

Now back to Kerry.

Does ANYONE have something positive to say about Kerry (that isn't mindless Bush bashing?)

 

[KevinG]

Why is 9/11 GWB's fault? He was in for 8 months and Slick Willie was in for 8 years. Radical Islam did not begin on Bush's watch. Clinton did nothing to keep the Al Queda infection from growing, yet no one is questioning his record, and by the way, the nations most liberal Senator( no not Ted Kennedy) John F Kerry was voting to gut our military and intelligence services during the past decade. I will admit GWB has made decisions I do not agree with but John F kerry is not the answer. If this nation is not protected, first and foremost, nothing else will matter.

 

[smokin'6]

Who says he has to fix anything, the Bush administration is still blaming everything on the Clinton Adm. including that lil' thing, something bout 3000 dead Americans???

 

[smokin'6]

Originally posted by KevinG
[ If this nation is not protected, first and foremost, nothing else will matter. [/B]

yeah ol GW did a great job at that huh?? see above

 

[GoldT]

Originally posted by TT/A1233
Hypotheitical-

Kerry's elected as the next US President (GASP). For you Bush haters, what EXACTLY will he do differently to fix what his predecessor "screwed up"?

Let's hear it!

Sorry to butt in........TTT

 

[KevinG]

Oh I am sorry, I thought you were American, but you are from the "land of fruits and nuts" so it is a little hard to put any stock in your response. By the way, If you truly believe the 9/11 atrocities were conceived and executed from Jan 01 to Sep 01 then yes GWB is 100% at fault, otherwise I think the previous administration has some culpability also

 

[GoldT]

I hereby blame the TERRORISTS for 9/11. Now, how will Kerry fix this terrible country that we live in?

 

[smokin'6]

Yeah another true blue delusional, only 8 months to react! you should hang with Condoleezza Rice, post quick while you can before G.W. takes that right away.



www.howardstern.com

 

[KevinG]

Delusional?... Hardly. You never did answer the question, was 9/11 conceived and executed from 1/01 to 9/01... a simple yes or no will do. No cheating... you are not allowed to call your local patriot Ms Pelosi. Yes or No. A simple question for an obviously simple mind.

 

[smokin'6]

Originally posted by KevinG
Oh I am sorry, I thought you were American, but you are from the "land of fruits and nuts" so it is a little hard to put any stock in your response. By the way, If you truly believe the 9/11 atrocities were conceived and executed from Jan 01 to Sep 01 then yes GWB is 100% at fault, otherwise I think the previous administration has some culpability also

Actually dumbass, I spent 28 years of my life down the road from you in Clinton Township, you know, your fav. guy to blame. Pull your head out of the snow.

 

[KevinG]

One more time. Answer the question... it is not that hard. BTW I noticed you do not have a cat converter. What if the C.A.R.B. Nazis show up at your door....let me guess that is GWB's fault also. I really feel sorry for you... get some help.

 

[smokin'6]

Originally posted by KevinG
Oh I am sorry, I thought you were American, but you are from the "land of fruits and nuts" so it is a little hard to put any stock in your response. By the way, If you truly believe the 9/11 atrocities were conceived and executed from Jan 01 to Sep 01 then yes GWB is 100% at fault, otherwise I think the previous administration has some culpability also

Actually dumbass, I spent 28 years of my life down the road from you in Clinton Township, you know, your fav. guy to blame. Pull your head out of the snow.


No it just happend on 9/11 to your next rambling, were you aware that the same time people like Rumsfeld, who usually flew commerical, were flying private jets because they were aware of a threat to commerical airlines? You and the rest of your idiots supporting Bush are an insult to the families of the 3000 killed Americans, no time in America's 200 year history had a foreign enemy purputrated such an act on American soil and don't get into an intellectual assult with me Kevin, you don't have what it takes, you being a Michigan resident takes some of the pride away I had in my home state.

 

[Phoff]

Well, I have no idea who I am going to vote for. Everybody else seems so sure of their decision wether it be Bush or Kerry. I am glad that Bush/Chaney were in there during 9/11 rather than Gore! But what exactly did Bush do between Jan. 20th and Sept. 11th? I understand that Clinton has to take much of the blame but it did happen on Bush's watch and he seemed as clueless about it as Clinton. After 9/11 he did a very good job with terrorism, not so good with the deficit and economy. Who knows what we will get with Kerry or how he will handle a terrorist attack. I think Iraq could have waited until we got a better handle on the terrorists, but it would have to have been done at some point. Bush is more for big business, I think, than for the middle class. Anyway I think most people have their mind made up already. I have not seen ONE person on this board change their mind one way or the other. Sorry about the spelling and rambling on I have been up since 5am.

Pete

 

[KevinG]

You have lost it . You believe the conspiracy theories? The problem with partisans like yourself is you will never admit your guy made any mistakes. Iam not going to start calling you a dumbass, unless you will feel better, but admit the shortcomings of your position. I will admit mine: GWB spends too much money, is too secretive in some of his associations and probably needs to be more diplomatic....BUT he is not solely to blame for a problem that extends past his fathers administration. Their is enough blame for all but apparently you can not see that. BTW I am originally from the Conservative Mecca called Massachusetts... what does that tell you

 

[TurboJunky]

I still haven't seen anyone describe exactly why they'd want Kerry President. Or even what the man stands for.

A lot of folks like to lay blame for a slumping economy at the President's feet. I submit to you not only is the slumping economy a result of 9/11 but so is our deficit. Remember, our economy was already losing steam at the end of the Clinton administration.

What does Kerry stand for again? And what does he have to offer? Let's hear it from the anti-Bush crowd. C'mon, speak up. Don't be afraid.

 

[KevinG]

TT/A1233... you did it now! Smokin 6 will be all over you with his clever responses that never really answer the question!!!

 

[striker_29]

Originally posted by smokin'6
No it just happend on 9/11 to your next rambling, were you aware that the same time people like Rumsfeld, who usually flew commerical, were flying private jets because they were aware of a threat to commerical airlines? You and the rest of your idiots supporting Bush are an insult to the families of the 3000 killed Americans

Actually I (as would most clear thinking individuals) would expect; no demand, that our most important leaders take every precaution to protect themselves from even the slightest threat. Regardless, you are a conspiracy theorist nut. Carry on...

 

[KevinG]

Striker... Thank you for a clear, well thought out response.