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A couple people have told me about grooms. I looked on the their website sounds real good. They only showed 3.8 turbo applications. Stock motor rebuilds & stock motor level 1 & level 2. I was told they had a level 3 which included a block girdle,forged pistons,arp hardware,etc. Anyone have information on this?
 
My vote goes to:

Max Overdrive Racing Engines
DaveW
E-mail Address(es):
ronin@aristotle.net

When I picked the engine up there was a CD with photos of the assembly, and receipts for everything he bought. Felt like I was buying a AFC puppy or somethin.

He's in Arkansas.
 
again

anyone have any experience with groom? Or any info on a level 3 package with a girdle?
 
engine rebuild

I'm looking at having mine rebuilt next year. What are the average cost range for a rebuild? Chris
 
my plan

Well I am in the process of doing a high quality rebuild. I was told that grooms has a level 1,2, & 3. The website shows level 1 & 2. I plan on calling them tomorrow due to the holliday they were closed so hopefully I will get the info I am looking for. I want mine done right this time. No bs like I have had b4. I dont think you should spend big $ & have to baby sit an engine builder.
 
I live here in Nashville where Grooms is located. Doug Anderson has a great knowledge of the motor. The level 3 is a complete short block with all the before parts. BTW. I was told by my buddie that goes to test n tune with bill that they also did the bottom end in Bill Raglin's 8 sec. stage II car. They know what they are doing. I acually may have a complete fresh motor for sale with all the above + some.
 
possible motor sale

I am in the market for a motor very soon. My email is niterider2k2k@hotmail.com. Thanks for answering my ? I just wanted to know a little more about grooms.
 
Grooms Engines

3 bad experiences. Spun cam bearings on 2 of them. They use holimar for sealing girdles instead of RTV or the "right stuff". That stuff leaks immediately. All experiences happened within a year. They do use turbo cranks. I think they are way too expensive! NO warranty unless you get the level 3. They may have changed. Good luck. I think they use clevite bearings.
 
They warranty all their motors. CHeck their website under "warranty" and it will list exactly what they will do.
 
grooms website

How come they dont show level 3 on the site? Or I cant figure it out. I dont know but I want to find out.
 
You need to speak to Doug Anderson. He can answer any questions you have. He is on vacation all this week though. He will be back next Monday. I went up there about 3 weeks ago just to meet him and bs awhile and he started digging out parts and showing me the "new" cam bearings that they use (they are bad ass) and some other cool stuff. They know how to build engines and they have been doing it a long time. Some people may have had problems with some of their motors, but any engine builder, I don't care who it is, if he builds enough of them, will have some come back for one reason or another. Just rember who ever you chose to build a motor, this is not a run of the mill motor. Spun bearings, or what ever else not necessarily falls back on a bad engine builder. If a car has a waste gate set up that habitually Overboost and causes detonation is not a builders fault. Running a car too lean isn't either. Many things can contribute to spun bearings, bearing falure ect. Simple fact is clearance is the key to these motors living. After that, its the tune of the motor to keep it happy. Anytime you push a motor to the limits of safe whether it be with leaning it out, upping the boost, or too many revs there is a chance something "bad" will happen, so just because a "guru" builds an engine doesn't mean its bullet proof. Grooms is a little expensive, but the compensation is turn around time. They have thier stage 1,2,and 3 motors in stock. You send your core and recieve a fresh motor with no wait. And a warranty.
 
Flyin GN, been trying to locate and call Dan Smith,do you or anyone else has exact location and phone number.I would like to give him a try.
 
I picked up their info sheet at Bowling Green. Level 1 is $1895, Level 2 is $2495, level 3 is $2995. Level 1 has 18 month/unlimited mileage warranty for parts and labor. Level 2 and 3 have 30 day parts only warranty because they figure you'll be racing the motor, I guess.
 
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