to go with TE-61 or not? that is the question...

[TireFryer]

here's a list of my current setup:

TA-49
009's
adjustable WG/fuel pressure regulator
340 fuel pump w/ hotwire
freddy brown tranny with stock converter
214/214 cam in rebuilt engine
3" THDP
air bags
lineloc

Previous owner ran consistant 12.7's with this combo (I think it can do better), and can probably run 12.0's with a good 9" converter (which I plan on getting).

I am looking to upgrade to a TE-61 and wanted to know if this combo could take handle it to get into the mid 11's? If not, what else would I need to add to this combo? I will be getting a higher stall converter...what stall do you recommend?

Thanx for the input/advice

P.S. I have a TPS-TEC and Power PLate coming as well to be added to the above combo...

 

[lrover2]

Big shaft TE63 with bigger injectors and at least a 3800 stall. I had a 62 and love the upgrade to the big shaft 63. Just my two cents.

 

[UNGN]

Originally posted by TireFryer
here's a list of my current setup:

TA-49
009's
adjustable WG/fuel pressure regulator
340 fuel pump w/ hotwire
freddy brown tranny with stock converter
214/214 cam in rebuilt engine
3" THDP
air bags
lineloc

Previous owner ran consistant 12.7's with this combo (I think it can do better), and can probably run 12.0's with a good 9" converter (which I plan on getting).

That combo DOES NOT need a converter. If you can achieve 2400 RPM with your present converter you have enough stall to spool a TA49.

With a big neck intercooler, 28" tires, a race chip and 22-24 psi of boost you should be able to run 11.5's with your current set-up.

A 61 turbo might get you .2 more than that at higher boost and AFTER you bought a converter.

I'd tune what you got before going bigger.

 

[peterkin]

4000 stall, wow!!!!! are you really sure he needs 3800? are you sure he won't be bouncing off the limiter going down the track?

bmason is running a 3000 stall 9/11 converter with his 63 turbo and it spools fine. he runs 10.70's all day with almost all stock stuff. i just thought that was a bit much.

 

[lrover2]

Let me tell you my turbo spools like king kong! Probably a little overkill but it sure is fun.

 

[Steve Wood]

Car might be a bit overcammed for the rest of the stuff but I would wait until I was into the 11s before I played with the turbo.

You might try to exchange the tps-tec for something that might do you some good, as well.

 

[TireFryer]

Steve wood:
isn't the tps-tec supposed to help with throttle response? what would be something else I could get in it's place that would be "beneficial"?

so far so good guys...keep it coming. I have a t-link 3.0 on the way as well, and will need help to learn how to tune with it.

 

[HRpartsNstuff]

Being that we sell turbo's, it would be easy to recommend the 61, it's a great street/strip turbo. But, I would have to agree that your current combo with tuning should easily get you in the 11's. If you can't seem to do it, then look at what might be holding you back. Sometimes it's a suspension issue, which we can easily cure If the power you have isn't getting to the ground now, making more power with a bigger turbo/converter won't cure anything.

If you do decide to upgrade anyway, don't get crazy on stall speeds. I have had both 3000 stall & 4000 stall. The 4000 will give you a slight advantage off the line, but it just rpm's the motor the entire 1/4 mile for no reason. I got basically the same results with the 3000 stall at the track, but street driving was MUCH better. PS- I could get 3800 stall out of the 3000 converter at 20+ psi, so it's all relative Oh yeah, this was with a LT-63 (70 series compressor hsg), LOTS of flow.

 

[Steve Wood]

I believe that the tps-tec is based upon the mistaken idea that the ecm must see some high tps voltage to get into Power Enrichment. This was, and probably still is, a common belief. It is not true, however. Buy a knock alarm or something else...hot wire kit, something pretty...lots of choices.

 

[BoostKillsStres]

To Further Steve's responce. The tps-tec MAY help but only if you have a roll on throttle knock or roll on lean problem as since it ramps up voltage quickly it MAY get you into PE sooner based on TPS into PE values in the chip but this is only true if you haven't already reached a LV8 of 160 which is the PE enable value in almost all chips in which case it does nothing pre PE as TPS PE fuel trim doesn't happen until you reach PE. Now once in PE the higher TPS voltage is going to move you into a higher TPS PE fuel trim cell so you will have a TAD more fueling unless your at full throttle in which case the TPS PE trim is at its max value in the chip. Money is better spent elsewhere IMHO.

my .02
HTH

 

[TireFryer]

pretty pieces

already have the hotwire kit, and gauges (6-water, oil, boost, knock, rpm, volt)... keep'em coming Steve

 

[Steve Wood]

Scantool, fuel pressure gauge, digital egt

Send me your cc #, I am sure I can help!

 

[Steve Wood]

oh, Casper's sells a coil/module tester that is very useful when trouble shooting problems. Everyone should have access to one of them.

 

[KEVINS]

Re: Re: to go with TE-61 or not? that is the question...

Originally posted by UNGN
With a big neck intercooler, 28" tires, a race chip and 22-24 psi of boost you should be able to run 11.5's with your current set-up

Ditto!

 

[TireFryer]

this is cool...

got a KB hood mounted FPG, T-link 3.0, and all the frame and seats braces due to car being t-top...
one thing I do WANT is a FMIC *Varoooommmm*

 

[Steve Wood]

Well...everyone seems to want a FM but......you don't need one to run 11s and you may get more drivability problems with compressor surge than you do performance benefit. The TA 49 may, or may not, be large enuf to give you a surge problem.

You can run into 11s with the stock ic. You can run into the 11s even easier with the big mouth inlet tube. You can run down into the tens with an extended stock location unit.

Now, if you just wanta be able to point at it thru the grill and say, "Look at that big mofo!"....it might have some entertainment value.

You got another second to lose before you really need anything.

 

[Intercooler]

Originally posted by Steve Wood


Now, if you just wanta be able to point at it thru the grill and say, "Look at that big mofo!"....it might have some entertainment value.

I got one of those big mofo in another thread..... don't have to point it out from the front because it will catch your eye in raw form

 

[Steve Wood]

Yeah, I liked your description...

 

[Roger]

TE-61 will get 11.7 to 11.8 with bluetops & 2600 stall converter.
Same TR with .009s, 3000 stall, TE-61, & Ruggles heads went 11.4.

 

[J Banning]

Forget the TPS-TEC. You're combo should already get you in the 11's (with slicks) no problem. And as most others have mentioned, if you're gonna get a turbo, go with the 63 and a higher stall convertor.

-Banning.