I hate to do it, but right now due to time and money constraints I'm thinking about using the logs that came with the NA 3.8L I've got. There's also the fact I have little to no urge to be playing with a TIG welder to make something up right now, and I'm thinking the logs would clear better too. A stock GN DS header would probably work, the passenger side one wouldn't as I'm going to relocate the turbo behind the engine due to engine compartment constraints. I was wondering if anyone had used these, I'm planning on rooting them out as much as possible with a sanding drum first, of course. If so, was there a point at which they fell flat on their face?