NHRA stock cam
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Steve Wood
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See if you can run the Gallinas down.. I believe Marka is running H/S with her TransAM unless the rules changed this year.
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One year in, she has the current I/SA record which is only a hair quicker than the H/SA record, so I imagine she'll be factored to D/SA.
An intercooled turbo car is a way unfair advantage IMO.
Swede, if you run the numbers out for using a 30" tall tire and all 4 gears, a rear gear ratio in the mid 5's would be optimum.
Not taking anything away from the galina's accomplishments, but balance and blueprint the motor, JE pistons, 3 angle valve job (big throat cut, wink wink), THDP, I feel low 11's would be no problem, even with a stock turbo.
Steve Wood
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As I remember, that is correct. They spend a lot of money with Dr. Doom
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For NHRA stock class, the cam must have stock lift or less. The heads MUST be stock with no bowl work or port matching or 3 angle jobs. I did the tear-down on Marka's TTA in Tucson where she just set the I/SA records for ET and MPH. I have done many tear-downs for NHRA inspectors and can assure you it best meet the stock specs or no record or class win. The stock/ss class cars are only factored at National meets, not Divisionals or opens where records are set.
The turbo motor is factored at 290 HP in stock class. Her car did have plenty more power than last year, and some traction problems showed up. This weekend in Boise, ID, she may lower the record or run for the H/SA record?
John's GN now has a 207 cu. in. motor with stage II heads replacing the M&A's that were used on the 210 motor. The dyno run on the 207 peaked at 1285 HP! I will be with this this car at Mission Raceway in Canada the first of May for a possible record run.
Also, the 5.13 gears are way too steep even for NHRA racing in a turbo Buick.
The turbo motor is factored at 290 HP in stock class. Her car did have plenty more power than last year, and some traction problems showed up. This weekend in Boise, ID, she may lower the record or run for the H/SA record?
John's GN now has a 207 cu. in. motor with stage II heads replacing the M&A's that were used on the 210 motor. The dyno run on the 207 peaked at 1285 HP! I will be with this this car at Mission Raceway in Canada the first of May for a possible record run.
Also, the 5.13 gears are way too steep even for NHRA racing in a turbo Buick.
She has the current NHRA I/SA record at 11.19/119+
Since TTA89 went 11.66@117 with stock turbo, injectors, intercooler and downpipe with a stock TTA, I would guess there is at least .5 seconds and a couple mph in her NHRA "stock" trim race car, but what do I know.
AS I said earlier, I bet its less than a year before she's factored into D/SA. I/SA is silly for a TTA when poor Swede has to run H/SA with his GN
Where is the power coming from?
I mean a 117 mph is a lot of speed out of static injectors.I've been at 112.50 on a cool 56 degree nite all stock.I can see someone else being faster..but a full second and 7 mph...what am I missing?
I'm not at all saying it cant be done...but where is the majical HP coming from?And am I to assume stock converter too?And we're I hope not talking 50 degrees outside and a downhill track
I mean a 117 mph is a lot of speed out of static injectors.I've been at 112.50 on a cool 56 degree nite all stock.I can see someone else being faster..but a full second and 7 mph...what am I missing?
I'm not at all saying it cant be done...but where is the majical HP coming from?And am I to assume stock converter too?And we're I hope not talking 50 degrees outside and a downhill track
Marka's times are altitude corrected at Firebird...it does not hurt to have Duttweiler as your engine builder....and, yes, the TTA will surely receive a new factor shortly....why do you think they built a TTA? (the HP factor is less than a GN.....)
any resemblence to a "stock" TTA is merely a coincidence......
any resemblence to a "stock" TTA is merely a coincidence......
strikeeagle
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Kind of ironic, don't you think?
For low 11s:
Typical approach - lots of parts and lots of money.
Gallina's (i.e. NHRA's) approach - no parts and huge money.
NHRA - keepin' things simple!!!
For low 11s:
Typical approach - lots of parts and lots of money.
Gallina's (i.e. NHRA's) approach - no parts and huge money.
NHRA - keepin' things simple!!!
Nick, I stopped by Duttweiler's last month when they were putting the motor in John's car after the dyno runs. I enjoyed meeting John and seeing the work that's going into that car. Duttweiler was amazingly patient with me hanging out at the shop for probably 4 hours that Friday.
I particularly liked the intake they've got on it; it's an old Kinsler EFI stack setup with a separate plenum for each bank and a balance tube between them. Got me thinking...bad thing, as usual.
Razor, if you are talking about Marka's car, the injectors certainly are not stock, nor is the converter, nor is the ecm, or exhaust, or intercooler or......."stock" in NHRA parlance means stock displacement, and stock head volume, and weight...that is about it! (well, "stock" turbo too....)
