WE4
TBcom Admin /Prayers NYFD/NYPD
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- May 24, 2001
History and future of the 9X11 converter.....Facts
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The 9X11 2004r converter was originally designed and built by TCS Performance and marketed by Kenne Bell, about 15 years ago. The converter that was produced then is considered "primative" by todays standards , so it is not even a concern anymore , but that is where it all started.
Everything stated here I can back up and if so desired, Rusty from TCS Performance will also.
Also the ONLY converter we are discussing here is the 27 spline 2004r/7004r 9X11 converter.
(All other products and parts, made and sold by, TCS Performance, are a totally separate issue. None of this pertains to them)
The 9X11 2004r converter is a very versatile piece. It comes in two versions, basically, and both have a stall from 1500 to 6500 upon desired application. Now, I DO NOT want this be an ad! No sales pitch. Fact. I want to educate everyone about this converter and it’s future.
A 2” single disc is the less expensive , very, durable piece that will hold 400 – 550 ft lbs of torque comfortably and lock well .
The Billet Carbon Fibre clutched 9X11 2004r is an awesome piece. We have run them in cars from 400 hp to 1250 hp. Very Versatile piece. Lots of r&d went into this converter, and with awesome results I might add.
Many success stories could be told by consumers I am sure.
Up until now this converter was primarily sold by PTS Xtreme and produced by TCS Performance with PTS having priority. TCS Performance would sell to the public and to other vendors, from time to time.
This all changed today. 1/22/04
I spoke with Rusty at TCS Performance and when he called, was very annoyed. I will not go into total detail, as he may, if he so desires.His decision. He was pissed and conveyed to me how things will work from now on.. Somehow, the Turbo Buick world has managed to piss off another quality product vendor and I was just thankful I could save the deal at all. He was ready to tell everyone , “no more ”, which would be a great loss to our performance and dependablility in a moderately priced converter. He was ready to tell the Buick world, “screw you”. I had to make some pretty heavy commitments to save this deal.
Effective 1/22/04
PTS Xtreme Transmissions will have 99% exclusive rights to this 9X11 2004r converter both in regular version or the Billet version. Not Art Carr, not CK Performance, Not ANYBODY anymore. We will provide this converter to wholesale vendors as well as direct to the public. Rusty and TCS Performance wants to deal with one vendor (PTS Xtreme) and distribute from there.
PTS Xtreme will provide any info desired and design combos for whatever the application is that is desired. We will continue to service and install this converter exclusively in our shop, and online and by request. Pricing is the same as before and what is listed on the website.
Rusty also stated the warranty has also changed:
1) 90 days from date of purchase on free restall….(customer pays all freight)
2) Converter will be warranteed for a period of 1 year from date of purchase from defects in material or workmanship. Not abuse, overheated, raced, cracked neck and or pump failure and any related damage to any transmissions installed within. ….(customer pays all freight)
3) Restalls within the 1 year warranty period would be at a discount rate. ….(customer pays all freight)
4) After 1 year, you own it.
Now, that other 1% is welcome to go direct to TCS Performance, if for some reason they are unhappy with the service and /or support provided by PTS Xtreme or just do not desire to deal with PTS Xtreme or just want to cut out the middle man, so to speak, this can be done. Just call TCS.....BUT....
TCS Performance pricing will be as follows:
Regular 9X11 2004r converter is $1000.00 and customer pays all freight.
Billet 9X11 2004r converter is $1500.00 and again customer pays all freight.
Warranty and restall will be , when you receive it, you own it.
He doesn’t want to deal with the Turbo Regal or 2004r guys direct.
To quote Rusty “If they do not like it, lick my balls”
*(SEE THE NOTATION QUOTE AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE)*
Rusty has no problem talking to anybody about this as neither do I.
Rusty can be reached at:
TCS Performance
2180 College Drive
Lake Havasu City, Arizona 86403
www.TCSPerformance.com
email: info@tcsperformance.com attention Rusty Stewart
phone: 928-453-4020
I can be reached at:
PTS Xtreme Transmissions
5852 88th Street Suite #700
Sacramento Ca. 95828
www.PTSXTREME.com
email: the2004rperfcntr@aol.com attention Bruce
phone: 916-739-0510
Again, this wasn’t meant to demean or put anybody down. It was NOT meant to be an advertisement. There was no intention to sell just to inform.These are facts and the method in which this product will now be distributed.
Everything stated here can be confirmed with an email or a phone call.
__________________
WE4
Bruce
www.Turbobuick.com
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The 9X11 2004r converter was originally designed and built by TCS Performance and marketed by Kenne Bell, about 15 years ago. The converter that was produced then is considered "primative" by todays standards , so it is not even a concern anymore , but that is where it all started.
Everything stated here I can back up and if so desired, Rusty from TCS Performance will also.
Also the ONLY converter we are discussing here is the 27 spline 2004r/7004r 9X11 converter.
(All other products and parts, made and sold by, TCS Performance, are a totally separate issue. None of this pertains to them)
The 9X11 2004r converter is a very versatile piece. It comes in two versions, basically, and both have a stall from 1500 to 6500 upon desired application. Now, I DO NOT want this be an ad! No sales pitch. Fact. I want to educate everyone about this converter and it’s future.
A 2” single disc is the less expensive , very, durable piece that will hold 400 – 550 ft lbs of torque comfortably and lock well .
The Billet Carbon Fibre clutched 9X11 2004r is an awesome piece. We have run them in cars from 400 hp to 1250 hp. Very Versatile piece. Lots of r&d went into this converter, and with awesome results I might add.
Many success stories could be told by consumers I am sure.
Up until now this converter was primarily sold by PTS Xtreme and produced by TCS Performance with PTS having priority. TCS Performance would sell to the public and to other vendors, from time to time.
This all changed today. 1/22/04
I spoke with Rusty at TCS Performance and when he called, was very annoyed. I will not go into total detail, as he may, if he so desires.His decision. He was pissed and conveyed to me how things will work from now on.. Somehow, the Turbo Buick world has managed to piss off another quality product vendor and I was just thankful I could save the deal at all. He was ready to tell everyone , “no more ”, which would be a great loss to our performance and dependablility in a moderately priced converter. He was ready to tell the Buick world, “screw you”. I had to make some pretty heavy commitments to save this deal.
Effective 1/22/04
PTS Xtreme Transmissions will have 99% exclusive rights to this 9X11 2004r converter both in regular version or the Billet version. Not Art Carr, not CK Performance, Not ANYBODY anymore. We will provide this converter to wholesale vendors as well as direct to the public. Rusty and TCS Performance wants to deal with one vendor (PTS Xtreme) and distribute from there.
PTS Xtreme will provide any info desired and design combos for whatever the application is that is desired. We will continue to service and install this converter exclusively in our shop, and online and by request. Pricing is the same as before and what is listed on the website.
Rusty also stated the warranty has also changed:
1) 90 days from date of purchase on free restall….(customer pays all freight)
2) Converter will be warranteed for a period of 1 year from date of purchase from defects in material or workmanship. Not abuse, overheated, raced, cracked neck and or pump failure and any related damage to any transmissions installed within. ….(customer pays all freight)
3) Restalls within the 1 year warranty period would be at a discount rate. ….(customer pays all freight)
4) After 1 year, you own it.
Now, that other 1% is welcome to go direct to TCS Performance, if for some reason they are unhappy with the service and /or support provided by PTS Xtreme or just do not desire to deal with PTS Xtreme or just want to cut out the middle man, so to speak, this can be done. Just call TCS.....BUT....
TCS Performance pricing will be as follows:
Regular 9X11 2004r converter is $1000.00 and customer pays all freight.
Billet 9X11 2004r converter is $1500.00 and again customer pays all freight.
Warranty and restall will be , when you receive it, you own it.
He doesn’t want to deal with the Turbo Regal or 2004r guys direct.
To quote Rusty “If they do not like it, lick my balls”
*(SEE THE NOTATION QUOTE AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE)*
Rusty has no problem talking to anybody about this as neither do I.
Rusty can be reached at:
TCS Performance
2180 College Drive
Lake Havasu City, Arizona 86403
www.TCSPerformance.com
email: info@tcsperformance.com attention Rusty Stewart
phone: 928-453-4020
I can be reached at:
PTS Xtreme Transmissions
5852 88th Street Suite #700
Sacramento Ca. 95828
www.PTSXTREME.com
email: the2004rperfcntr@aol.com attention Bruce
phone: 916-739-0510
Again, this wasn’t meant to demean or put anybody down. It was NOT meant to be an advertisement. There was no intention to sell just to inform.These are facts and the method in which this product will now be distributed.
Everything stated here can be confirmed with an email or a phone call.
__________________
WE4
Bruce
www.Turbobuick.com
Originally posted by WE4
I was wrong. I wanted to convey exactly what Rusty said to me to relay exactly how upset and pissed he was. I should have used more couth and chose a better term to describe. (Than Lick my balls)
I stated what was stated to me and looking back, it was wrong. You guys are right. I should have softened it up and went from there. Me bad.
But like Chris and others have mentioned, haven't we all made or typed a statement that might have felt right at the time but maybe too harsh or outta line later?
Everythnig I stated in that post was correct. I didn't lie about anything. In fact so much I didn't lie, now I am apologizing for saying the absolute and not thinking and toning it down. For this I am sorry. I will not delete it or asterisk it as it is all over everywhere and that would not be right. Please understand the stress level and accept this explanation as it is intended.
Bruce
WE4
PTS XTREME