Who bought this

[Turbo6Smackdown]

Who bought this car, anyone here? eBay Motors: Buick : Grand National (item 110260783062 end time Jun-16-08 17:24:53 PDT)

 

[1 RARE T]

They paid too much.

That thing is too far gone.

I don't see parting it making you rich. Too much work for little reward.

JMO.

 

[87natl]

Wow, poor thing. Neglected and abused. I'd question the mileage as well. Freakin shame.

 

[toofastforyou]

They paid too much.

That thing is too far gone.

I don't see parting it making you rich. Too much work for little reward.

JMO.

I think it's worth about that price...for someone who has time and skills to restore it, (frame off, nothing less!) it could be a great GN again...Better make friends with "BWeavy" as the car is going to need a lot of replacement parts! heck, what do you want for $3,550. these days!...

Claude :smile:

 

[Turbo6Smackdown]

EVERY buick should be restored. It's people like like bweavy and them, who just want the money for parts, instead of restoring them. It's ALWAYS worth it, trust me. There's probably less than half of our cars left because of 'parting it out' types. I'm guessing around 15,000 total IC cars left, with around 10,000 ic gn's left around. That makes them rare in my book, and they should be treated with MUCH more respect than people give them.

Guys, at this rate, it's not going to be too much longer, before there is no more donor cars. It's going to get reeeal hard to find parts for 'em, and the prices of our cars are going to skyrocket like you wouldn't believe. For all them fools who sold their factory intercoolers, turbos, injectors and wheels, for all the go-fast parts, you're going to feel like a dummy at the car show in 2028 when the all factory GN sitting next to you is commanding a 45,000 dollar price tag, ONLY because it's stock, and your pt77 turboed car only gets an onlooker every other hour. You're going to kick yourself in the pants.
Remember how mad your parents were, when they found out how much Chrysler E bodies were going for in the local auto trader? "MAN!, we used to take our challenger grocery shopping. Garage? We had no garage, we just let it sit in the rain. We sold that stupid car for 500 bucks back in 84, to buy the brand new K car." Don't be that dummy. Learn from your parents. You're driving this generations 'cuda.

 

[Project TNX]

EVERY buick should be restored. It's people like like bweavy and them, who just want the money for parts, instead of restoring them. It's ALWAYS worth it, trust me. There's probably less than half of our cars left because of 'parting it out' types. I'm guessing around 15,000 total IC cars left, with around 10,000 ic gn's left around. That makes them rare in my book, and they should be treated with MUCH more respect than people give them.

Guys, at this rate, it's not going to be too much longer, before there is no more donor cars. It's going to get reeeal hard to find parts for 'em, and the prices of our cars are going to skyrocket like you wouldn't believe. For all them fools who sold their factory intercoolers, turbos, injectors and wheels, for all the go-fast parts, you're going to feel like a dummy at the car show in 2028 when the all factory GN sitting next to you is commanding a 45,000 dollar price tag, ONLY because it's stock, and your pt77 turboed car only gets an onlooker every other hour. You're going to kick yourself in the pants.
Remember how mad your parents were, when they found out how much Chrysler E bodies were going for in the local auto trader? "MAN!, we used to take our challenger grocery shopping. Garage? We had no garage, we just let it sit in the rain. We sold that stupid car for 500 bucks back in 84, to buy the brand new K car." Don't be that dummy. Learn from your parents. You're driving this generations 'cuda.

Conversely, people like me restoring cars need parts cars from people like Bweavy.

 

[toofastforyou]

EVERY buick should be restored. It's ALWAYS worth it, trust me. There's probably less than half of our cars left because of 'parting it out' types. I'm guessing around 15,000 total IC cars left, with around 10,000 ic gn's left around. That makes them rare in my book, and they should be treated with MUCH more respect than people give them.

For all them fools who sold their factory intercoolers, turbos, injectors and wheels, for all the go-fast parts, you're going to feel like a dummy at the car show in 2028 when the all factory GN sitting next to you is commanding a 45,000 dollar price tag, ONLY because it's stock, and your pt77 turboed car only gets an onlooker every other hour. You're going to kick yourself in the pants.

Well I agree 100% with the first part of what you said but don't agree with the second...:redface: Let me explain my view: First, I do not want to keep from enjoying it by not driving it like some do and from modifying it to make it the way I want it to be. I couldn't care less about it's value in 20-30 year from now because I don't even know if I'll still be around by then...I did not buy my GN as an investment but rather as a "toy" to have fun with. Keep in mind that I do take care of it meticulously though...but I wanted it to go fast, have a lot of chrome under the hood, some aftermarket wheels, etc...Hope you understand my opinion...

Thanks,

Claude :wink:

 

[TurboCrazy]

I intend to enjoy my cars, not save them for the next guy. They are only worth big money if you plan to sell them. Don't plan to sell any of my cars!:biggrin: Mod them the way I want them and enjoy them.

 

[87lightweight]

what do you guys think the lowest value is on a complete 87 gn in rough condition? i know where one is but very rusty would probably need a doner regal to repair, interior trashed also.

 

[toofastforyou]

I intend to enjoy my cars, not save them for the next guy. They are only worth big money if you plan to sell them. Don't plan to sell any of my cars!:biggrin: Mod them the way I want them and enjoy them.

X 2!...Exactly!

Claude :wink:

 

[1 RARE T]

Restoring THAT car would be a waste of money when there are so many great cars for sale for great prices.

 

[Anthony P]

we work so that we can have a paycheck to support our toys.:biggrin: it looks like it's all there. that is a great starting point. for the right person, it's a cheap entry into the turbo buick world.

 

["Turbo-T"]

For all them fools who sold their factory intercoolers, turbos, injectors and wheels, for all the go-fast parts, you're going to feel like a dummy at the car show in 2028 when the all factory GN sitting next to you is commanding a 45,000 dollar price tag, ONLY because it's stock, and your pt77 turboed car only gets an onlooker every other hour. You're going to kick yourself in the pants.

Well I guess my car will never be worth anything, especially when I bought it with an aftermarket turbo, aftermarket injectors, aftermarket chip, aftermarket exhaust.....all already done to it.

But that's ok because a car is only original once. My car won't be even close to like original until I'm retired and have my own rotisserie in the garage and a sock shoved in the wife's mouth. :biggrin: In fact I don't really look at my car from a "financial gain" point of view.

Should every Buick be restored? Well I don't forsee myself restoring an 82 Skylark anytime soon, so I won't say "every" Buick. But now as for Grand nationals....everyone that isn't too far gone....yes. In my opinion the one in the link is probably salvageable.

But then again these cars are only 21 years old. So theres still some out there. Thankfully they're not like 69 Camaros and 70 Chevelles that have done been wrecked/cut up for race cars/ran into the ground/rusted away. And now are commanding ridiculous prices.

Oh, and my mom and dad never owned a Challenger, much less a K car. They owned a 71 Nova and a 67 Chevelle. Both of which rusted away due to Indiana winter salty roads.

 

[INEEDAGN]

EVERY buick should be restored. It's people like like bweavy and them, who just want the money for parts, instead of restoring them. It's ALWAYS worth it, trust me. There's probably less than half of our cars left because of 'parting it out' types. I'm guessing around 15,000 total IC cars left, with around 10,000 ic gn's left around. That makes them rare in my book, and they should be treated with MUCH more respect than people give them.

Guys, at this rate, it's not going to be too much longer, before there is no more donor cars. It's going to get reeeal hard to find parts for 'em, and the prices of our cars are going to skyrocket like you wouldn't believe. For all them fools who sold their factory intercoolers, turbos, injectors and wheels, for all the go-fast parts, you're going to feel like a dummy at the car show in 2028 when the all factory GN sitting next to you is commanding a 45,000 dollar price tag, ONLY because it's stock, and your pt77 turboed car only gets an onlooker every other hour. You're going to kick yourself in the pants.
Remember how mad your parents were, when they found out how much Chrysler E bodies were going for in the local auto trader? "MAN!, we used to take our challenger grocery shopping. Garage? We had no garage, we just let it sit in the rain. We sold that stupid car for 500 bucks back in 84, to buy the brand new K car." Don't be that dummy. Learn from your parents. You're driving this generations 'cuda.

If it weren't for the bad ones getting parted, there'd be no parts to fix up the decent ones. "parting it out" types are better than "crush it for the scrap iron money" types, and there are way too many of those types around here. Some cars are just too far gone to justify restoring. Many would need so many parts (like a rebody and/or a new frame) that purists wouldn't call it a GN anymore anyway. It'd be a clone. A buddy and I parted a real 84 hurst olds. That car was in terrible shape, and the parts went mostly to guys who needed them for their nicer hursts. Operations like Bweavy connect people who need parts with the parts they need to make nice cars. The internet is also doing wonders for the car restoration hobby. The price of scrap iron is hurting it.

bob

 

[darkred87T]

Probably not a bad deal. It's defintley worth restoring especially since it's a T-top car. Just my 02.

 

[nordy racer]

that GN should have stayed right there where the photos were taken, the junk yard.. someone dropped that thing off and was giving 500 bucks i bet, and now that junk yard just made 3500 off some poor dumb a$$..

 

[Turbo6Smackdown]

Well I agree 100% with the first part of what you said but don't agree with the second...:redface: Let me explain my view: First, I do not want to keep from enjoying it by not driving it like some do and from modifying it to make it the way I want it to be. I couldn't care less about it's value in 20-30 year from now because I don't even know if I'll still be around by then...I did not buy my GN as an investment, but rather as a "toy" to have fun with. Keep in mind that I do take care of it meticulously though...but I wanted it to go fast, have a lot of chrome under the hood, some aftermarket wheels, etc...Hope you understand my opinion...

Thanks,

Claude :wink:

I completely understand your point, and everyone elses. Here's the deal though. "I dont want to keep from enjoying it" Absolutely. I don't want you to. I enjoy mine as often as possible. I just don't use it as a daily driver, and park it on the street every day. They're worth more than that. These arent 99 impalas. Secondly, "I couldn't care less about it's value in 20-30 year from now because I don't even know if I'll still be around by then" is EXACTLY what my parents, and everyone at the car show said, when they sold their bone stock 69 chargers for 900 dollars... Or their ss chevells for 1500. My whole point was, that EVERYONE says that.. but never plans for the future, JUST IN CASE, they MAY want their gn back to factory. Who knows, I could die tomorrow. But in case I don't, I have all my old factory components packaged downstairs on a shelf. One day, when I choose to go back stock, when I don't feel like racing anymore, because I'm 60 years old, I can do so. I still have that option.
And lastly, the investment thing. I didn't buy mine as an investment either. Never once thought of it that way. But why permanently screw oneself out of a potential investment, by honing a numbers matching block? Why not buy a junk shortblock for 200 bucks, and bore that one? I don't look at my car as an investment either, but if I return her to factory stock, I'd be lookin at a pretty penny a short time from now. At LEAST doubling my money. Easy. All I'm saying is, keep the option open that's all. I'm not saying to shrink wrap your cars guys. I say drive 'em every day, but be careful. You may just be that old guy at a car show, regretting what you've done 15 years ago. I meet them EVERY day.

 

[toofastforyou]

"One day, when I choose to go back stock, when I don't feel like racing anymore, because I'm 60 years old"...

"why permanently screw oneself out of a potential investment, by honing a numbers matching block?"

Answer to first phrase: Well, it won't be too long for that...4 years exactly!..:biggrin: :biggrin: ...I'm 56 now...:frown:

Answer to second phrase: I've already gone through two stock "109" blocks...and now have a TA block...:redface: ...so my "potential investment" is already screwed I guess! :biggrin:

Claude

 

[at7we2]

I intend to enjoy my cars, not save them for the next guy. They are only worth big money if you plan to sell them. Don't plan to sell any of my cars!:biggrin: Mod them the way I want them and enjoy them.

amen!

 

[t-typex1]

I think ANY Turbo Buick is worth rebuilding. When you rebuild them, make it exactly(or as close to exact) what you want. In the end, you'll have a nice Buick, and know whats done to it without having to guess. I started with an 85 T-Type that needed a lot of help. I've put in enough money that I could have bought a nice already done car, probably for less money. But I have what I want and know whats on my car and that it'll be reliable for me. I look at it as I saved a car that may have been a potential parts car :biggrin:

I'm happy with the results