90-95 Ford Taurus/Sable 3.8 Electric Fan

[Electrajim]

SOOO where's the installs?

I havn't taken any!

I'm busy getting ready for Pinks All-Out in STL.

Will do a photo-shoot, and post soon.

ElectraJim

 

[salvageV6]

Here is what we are dealing with for the Ferd 3.8 Taurus/Sable fan.

Circuit breakers and wiring.

 

[usetaboost]

So are there any other cars we can steal a connector from to splice onto the ford harness or do we have to chop up our 20yr old wiring? Or is there a whole other way about hooking up. I don't want to bother with this if I gotta do a hack job with toggle switches. I like no brainer automatic stuff The install of the fan itself doesn't look too complicated on that side of deal.

 

[salvageV6]

I posted in the parts wanted for a plug with 3" of good wire on it from a dead stock fan, shouldn't cost too much.

Caspers may make a harness with relays that might work with some simple modifying.

I intend to use the factory feeds to splice into the bare wires for ground and low speed, and add a relay for additional high speed current.

I may add an additional ground feed to the battery or frame since I already have that grounded to the battery.

Some heavy duty soldering or crimping may be involved, or for quicker operation perhaps some heavy duty large wire nuts, tape and a waterproof compound over it.

I will probably use the Ferd circuit breaker module and wires as shown without their bracket, or mount the bracket to the fan plastic.

Shouldn't be all that hard to do with a plug end from a dead stock fan, not any earth shattering wiring involved I don't think.

I don't intend to cut up my fan wiring saving the good GM fan for the GN.

Bought some universal 2 1/2" and 3" long brackets, L's, T's, and right angles, from the hardware store today which should work for the other 3 mounting points since only one "ear" of the Ford fan lines up with a factory mount.

Only problem with this fan is it's made by Ford (or a supplier), my fathers original seized up and smoked a ton before he disconnected it on a road trip.

The one I have now is a $15 junk yard replacement....

My GM 21 year old has worked just fine.

 

[Joe Kelsch]

A friend of mine uses a dual fan set up from a Subaru that incorporates the overflow. He has it on his 83 T-Type 464 Stage 2. It keeps the car pretty cool. I kinda have a pic but it's mostly of the motor.

 

[salvageV6]

Here's a quick and dirty harness I made up using the stock Ford wires and soldered heavy duty Faston connector males on each of the (3) wires.

Low/high speed power and ground. They plug right into the stock weather pak female connector that went to the stock fan, and retains the Ford circuit breaker assembly, I didn't use the heavy metal bracket just zip ties.

I added a heavy duty ground to the stock wire as well, and a pink/black feed line that goes to a second relay that is triggered by the stock high speed ground connection trigger as well as the output of the stock High speed fan relay to turn on an additional relay 30A fed off the alternator stud.

Mounting Brackets were added with easy to find hardware store off the shelf packaged bracket reinforcements.

It is a very loud fan on high speed but works well.

I relocated my tranny cooler to the front support, broke a half plugged stock radiator and used my spare so no real accurate cooling data can be derived from this install, going out to drive it hopefully today and check for leaks on the new old radatior from someones race car that "only" has 15 years of use on it.

Gonna solder up the hole I made in the one that was in there too, always need a spare radiator on hand. :wink:

 

[salvageV6]

Well no leaks so that's a good thing.

85 degree day with A/C on only hit 182 in stop and go traffic, stays at 165 on the highway.

If it stays under 200 on a 100 degree day I will be happy.

Not much clearance at all with a V4 intercooler scoop on there.

And yeah, I cut off the end of the zip tie.

 

[T-Type85David]

repost

 

[T-Type85David]

I haven't finish the install yet, some trimming is still needed but yeah it cools down my car(hot air) i used flexAlite adj thermo fan switch. It can range from 160-240 i believe, i got it about 160-170temp, its on high setting. The low was good enough to cool it down but i just wanted to see the high setting can do. I will say i need a better alt, only on high setting. along with the 320watt radio sucks powe, kinda makes the lights flicker with both are in use(sometimes) as for the IC TRs it should fit but if the stock IC location might be a problem idk ?? but a front mount should be a drop in i think, but again i still need to do trim here in there, idk hope this helps, YES WE CAN!!!!!! haha haha

 

[Sal 87WE2]

Bringing up an old thread hoping to get some more information and reviews.

How has the 3.8L Taurus Fan holding up? I am thinking about going this route....

Wiring: Can i use the factory low and high speed triggers? I know i have to run 40 amp relays and 10awg power/ground wires but i want to know if when the factory high speed relay is triggered does the factory low speed relay turn off power to the fan? I read you cannot run power to both the low and high speed wires to the fan otherwise it will burn out....

 

[salvageV6]

Mine is still working just fine on the daily driver.

Almost 2 years on a junkyard fan that already had a ton of use on a Sable.

Temps. were better without the V4 shroud on it but I put the main part of the shroud back on after undbending it from a truck tire impact on the highway. Lower scoop is a pretzel so I still have to redo that part.

I added a ground as noted and paralleled it soldered off the stock ground wire.

I added a relay for high speed operation only, the triggers were from the output of the stock high speed relay, +12 to the coil, and I also used the ground trigger from the stock high speed switch, power feed to the switch in the relay was from the alternator stud, output of the relay paralleled with the stock high speed relay output near the fan socket.

No issues with the operation high or low.

I am sure high and low have been on at the same time with the fan also.

I replaced the high speed approx. 220 degree trigger switch with a 170 degree hypertech one that has a lot of hysteresis so high speed runs a lot more on my car in the summer and with the A/C on.

I roughly measured 45 Amps. at turn on for high speed operation.

 

[Sal 87WE2]

Mine is still working just fine on the daily driver.

Almost 2 years on a junkyard fan that already had a ton of use on a Sable.

Temps. were better without the V4 shroud on it but I put the main part of the shroud back on after undbending it from a truck tire impact on the highway. Lower scoop is a pretzel so I still have to redo that part.

I added a ground as noted and paralleled it soldered off the stock ground wire.

I added a relay for high speed operation only, the triggers were from the output of the stock high speed relay, +12 to the coil, and I also used the ground trigger from the stock high speed switch, power feed to the switch in the relay was from the alternator stud, output of the relay paralleled with the stock high speed relay output near the fan socket.

No issues with the operation high or low.

I am sure high and low have been on at the same time with the fan also.

I replaced the high speed approx. 220 degree trigger switch with a 170 degree hypertech one that has a lot of hysteresis so high speed runs a lot more on my car in the summer and with the A/C on.

I roughly measured 45 Amps. at turn on for high speed operation.

Great information, everything i wanted to know, thank you!!!!

 

[Sal 87WE2]

Well i installed mine last week but when it got time to wire the high speed relay my wife called me to have me pick up our dog from the vet. Anyways, it fits just fine with the stock location intercooler. I have an 80 amp bosch style relay and i hope it holds up because i really do not want to have to install the large ford starter solenoid style relay The low speed was doing a way better job of keeping the temps below 180 idling in 93 degree weather, cant wait to see how the high speed works...

 

[turboc87gn]

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