HRpartsNstuff
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I am looking at having the shell put up for a 45 x 64 x 14 building, and then finish off the inside myself to keep costs down. I could probably do it all if I had the time, and would probably get it all done if I had the money 
It is frustrating to get the quotes back in here, and see the costs pile up to take care of insulation, heat system, wiring, concrete, interior walls/sheeting, lights, doors, etc. Below is a rough breakdown on costs for each part I could easily separate out. This is for an open span, 3:12 pitch open ceiling (cathedral style) steel trusses on 16' centers, then 2x8's 24" OC, and 25 yr steel siding/roof (Chief / Magnum Wood-Steel building) ( http://www.agri.chiefind.com/Products/wood.htm doesn't show a lot, but there it is):
Actually try: http://www.agri.chiefind.com/lit.asp?dir=literature/Buildings and click on MAGNUM.
$36,000 Building kit + erecting costs (shell only)
$ 2,430 Tax on building
$ 1,000 Permits (guessing)
$ 6,000 Site prep (excavating), fill material, driveway
$10,500 Concrete with ground insulation / vapor barrier 5"+ thick spots
$ 3,000 Doors (12x12, 12x10) (install myself)
$ 3,500 Radiant floor heating system (materials) (install myself before concrete)
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$62,430 Total to get cold storage basic necessities done before winter.
Then....
$ 1,000 (4) windows with shudders (install myself)
$ 3,000 Wiring / lights (install myself)
$ 800 (2) exhaust fans (install myself)
$ 4,600 Insulation (install myself)
$ 4,500 Interior panels (2,011 lineal ft. @ 3’ wide walls/ceil) (install myself)
$ 2,500 Oil furnace/boiler with tank
$ 1,000 Seamless gutters / downspouts (guess)
$ 5,000 Inside 2nd floor / walls - materials (install myself) 32 x 45 area
Subtotal extras to finish = $22,400
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$84,830 grand total
That just seems insane, especially when I tell others what it will cost. I had a couple quotes even higher, and it's outrageous to have them do it all for me. Looking at the ads (that don't include 1/3 the things you need) make it look like you can get one for under 20k. Lot's of fine print of what's not included in the cheap prices
I found I can knock a few grand off on interior work with different panels etc, but not a big deal. The $$ will dissapear somewhere else.
Tried to look at a simple pole barn all wood setup, but then I lose the 2nd floor possibility, have poles in the ground instead of steel columns on concrete piers (kinda wet area is concern rotting out poles), and can't insulate it as much, making the ever growing heating bills even higher every year. And after all that, I could only save about 10-14k, making it not a good idea compared to above setup with 50% more useable area & better setup.
Any thoughts/ideas/input???
Renting/leasing a building elsewhere is not feasible for a few reasons.
I could fix up 24x24 garage I have now to work out of, but seems a waste of $$ in the long term plans. It needs a lot too, no electric, bad floor, no insulation, bad door, etc. Keeps the rain off, that's about it. Not what I want or need, but possible stepping stone. Of course, all costs are increasing with steel prices, labor prices, and hurricane gouging on lumber etc., so waiting just costs more & more.
If I back off on building size, it makes it almost not worth doing cause a lot of costs are still there, and makes it more $$ & harder to add on later. Hate to go thru all this twice.
How about a new age "barn raising"? Bring your Buick & a screw gun & scaffolding We supply the beer (after hours), steaks, and race gas
With what they charge to put it up, I could afford it!
It is frustrating to get the quotes back in here, and see the costs pile up to take care of insulation, heat system, wiring, concrete, interior walls/sheeting, lights, doors, etc. Below is a rough breakdown on costs for each part I could easily separate out. This is for an open span, 3:12 pitch open ceiling (cathedral style) steel trusses on 16' centers, then 2x8's 24" OC, and 25 yr steel siding/roof (Chief / Magnum Wood-Steel building) ( http://www.agri.chiefind.com/Products/wood.htm doesn't show a lot, but there it is):
Actually try: http://www.agri.chiefind.com/lit.asp?dir=literature/Buildings and click on MAGNUM.
$36,000 Building kit + erecting costs (shell only)
$ 2,430 Tax on building
$ 1,000 Permits (guessing)
$ 6,000 Site prep (excavating), fill material, driveway
$10,500 Concrete with ground insulation / vapor barrier 5"+ thick spots
$ 3,000 Doors (12x12, 12x10) (install myself)
$ 3,500 Radiant floor heating system (materials) (install myself before concrete)
==========
$62,430 Total to get cold storage basic necessities done before winter.
Then....
$ 1,000 (4) windows with shudders (install myself)
$ 3,000 Wiring / lights (install myself)
$ 800 (2) exhaust fans (install myself)
$ 4,600 Insulation (install myself)
$ 4,500 Interior panels (2,011 lineal ft. @ 3’ wide walls/ceil) (install myself)
$ 2,500 Oil furnace/boiler with tank
$ 1,000 Seamless gutters / downspouts (guess)
$ 5,000 Inside 2nd floor / walls - materials (install myself) 32 x 45 area
Subtotal extras to finish = $22,400
==========
$84,830 grand total
That just seems insane, especially when I tell others what it will cost. I had a couple quotes even higher, and it's outrageous to have them do it all for me. Looking at the ads (that don't include 1/3 the things you need) make it look like you can get one for under 20k. Lot's of fine print of what's not included in the cheap prices
I found I can knock a few grand off on interior work with different panels etc, but not a big deal. The $$ will dissapear somewhere else.Tried to look at a simple pole barn all wood setup, but then I lose the 2nd floor possibility, have poles in the ground instead of steel columns on concrete piers (kinda wet area is concern rotting out poles), and can't insulate it as much, making the ever growing heating bills even higher every year. And after all that, I could only save about 10-14k, making it not a good idea compared to above setup with 50% more useable area & better setup.
Any thoughts/ideas/input???
Renting/leasing a building elsewhere is not feasible for a few reasons.
I could fix up 24x24 garage I have now to work out of, but seems a waste of $$ in the long term plans. It needs a lot too, no electric, bad floor, no insulation, bad door, etc. Keeps the rain off, that's about it. Not what I want or need, but possible stepping stone. Of course, all costs are increasing with steel prices, labor prices, and hurricane gouging on lumber etc., so waiting just costs more & more.
If I back off on building size, it makes it almost not worth doing cause a lot of costs are still there, and makes it more $$ & harder to add on later. Hate to go thru all this twice.
How about a new age "barn raising"? Bring your Buick & a screw gun & scaffolding
We supply the beer (after hours), steaks, and race gas With what they charge to put it up, I could afford it!
