disco stu it's a little joke that me and headcutta got. it's a guy that we know that always says stuff is no good unless he thought or heard of it first. oh he meant 1/4 mile. thats what some guys up at a local speed shop say he said his car would run in the 1/4, not hardly . we both are real serious about this setup though, seems it the way to go other than a high dollar fast system.