Detroit Ponycar wars in Trucks

[jmidolo]

Just got my new MotorTrend in the mail yesterday. Pretty good story on the Dodge and Ford super pickups. Viper motor in a Ram and 500HP in the Lightning. Now if they would only put that kind of power into something that can haul more than 3 people, that would be great!

Ram is offering a manual trans it looks like too. Should make for an interesting year with more power in the future.

 

[John Larkin]

The SRT-10 is only coming in a manual as far as I can tell. Good toy but I'm not a fan of hand shakers.

 

[jmidolo]

Originally posted by John Larkin
hand shakers.

That a term for manual trannies or you makin fun of Mohammad Alli?

 

[UNGN]

The 2004 Caddillac CTS could start HP war in sedans, too. 400 HP LS6 motor with a six speed vs. 375 HP Hemi 300C.

It's only a matter of time before they build something cheap for the rest of us.

 

[TriShield]

Too bad GM dropped the ball with the Silverado SS, it's in the price range, but can't even hold a candle to the performance of DCX and Ford's muscle trucks.

What a damn shame.

The CTS-V isn't meant to compete with the 300C and vice versa, either. The CTS-V is to squarely compete with European super sedans like the M5, RS 6, RS 4, and Mercedes AMG models.

 

[TriShield]

Originally posted by UNGN
It's only a matter of time before they build something cheap for the rest of us.

They already do, it's called the Dodge SRT-4, Pontiac GTO, and Ford Mustang.

 

[John Larkin]

Yeah it's a term for manual trans. Here's more:

Hand Shaker
A hook
Two footer
Rowing in traffic

 

[UNGN]

Originally posted by TriShield


They already do, it's called the Dodge SRT-4, Pontiac GTO, and Ford Mustang.

Subaru WRX is only $2K more than what the dealer wants for an SRT-4 and it is quicker. Not quite "detroit muscle".

$32K+ for a $14K mustang with a big motor and IRS isn't a good deal last time I checked.

Sure nobody makes anything faster for less, but that doesn't mean they can't.

 

[soonergn]

One of the magazines I read got a stock Dodge SRT-4 to go 101 mph in the quarter. That's not muscle? Our Buicks didn't do that stock.

 

[jmidolo]

It's muscle, just not "detroit muscle" I think is what he meant...Also, our GN is probably about 800 to 1000 lbs heavier than a SRT or WRX for sure.