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"Turbo-T"

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I'm looking for ways to improve my running. I want to go faster so I can run a mile and a half in less than 12 seconds (currently it takes me closer to 13 and that's if I'm pushing myself to the brink of keeling over) but it seems when I start pushing myself I start running out of breath and my lower back and sides start cramping. What can I do?

Also I am looking for ways to boost up my energy. Since I run at 3 pm and eat lunch between 11 am-12 pm I am wondering if I should eat a bunch of pasta for lunch and drink a lot of water....?

Thanks!
 
Alky and a TT chip!!!

I want to go faster so I can run a mile and a half in less than 12 seconds (currently it takes me closer to 13 and that's if I'm pushing myself to the brink of keeling over)



Thanks!

That should help.

Take in carbs like pasta and bread 30-45 minutes prior to running. That's all I've got. I eat a large bagel 80g carbs 40 min before I work out.
 
I'm looking for ways to improve my running. I want to go faster so I can run a mile and a half in less than 12 seconds (currently it takes me closer to 13 and that's if I'm pushing myself to the brink of keeling over) but it seems when I start pushing myself I start running out of breath and my lower back and sides start cramping. What can I do?

Also I am looking for ways to boost up my energy. Since I run at 3 pm and eat lunch between 11 am-12 pm I am wondering if I should eat a bunch of pasta for lunch and drink a lot of water....?

Thanks!

DO you mean minutes??:confused:
if that seconds woudent that be,,,,aaaaaaaaa can't think of anything.
 
Yes I meant minutes.:redface: I am sorry it's been a ****ty afternoon. I can't think str8.

12 minutes. I am looking to run a mile and a half in 12 minutes. Also looking for a way to keep them cramps down.
 
I ran track and cross counry through high school and college. I was a front runner in high school (in MS) and a mid pack runner in college (SEC). I've run several marathons and un-countable short races (under 10K). I currently run a couple of days a week.

1 1/2 miles? Wouldn't be the armed services test would it?

The question is what are you doing now? Gotta know what your currently doing before making any suggestions.
John
 
1 1/2 miles? Wouldn't be the armed services test would it?

Yes John, armed forces.

To be honest with you today is the 1st day in a month I've gotten out and ran. The big move kept me busy to the point of myself not having the time.

Now I have time and I intend to use it. I test in 2 months.

In the past I've tried drinking water maybe 2 hrs prior and eating bananas. Before I left someone mentioned doing sprints and eating pasta the night before.

Today at 3 pm I did sprints but wore myself out after 2 full sprints, and I had half a submarine sandwich for lunch at 11 am and a small bag of baked Lays.
 
this might help you run faster
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LOL! That's pretty funny. Of course I think I'd poop out after awhile. :redface:
 
just do what they do for horses like hanging a carrot in front of them to give motavation. Asumming your a guy just use a centerfold photo :biggrin:

Actually my 14 year old runs a 2 mile cross country @ 12:10. You need IDEAL conditions! temp, proper warm up, just the right foods..

Kind of like a turbo regal with GOOD gas in the tank.
 
To be honest with you today is the 1st day in a month I've gotten out and ran. The big move kept me busy to the point of myself not having the time.

Now I have time and I intend to use it. I test in 2 months.

In the past I've tried drinking water maybe 2 hrs prior and eating bananas. Before I left someone mentioned doing sprints and eating pasta the night before.

Today at 3 pm I did sprints but wore myself out after 2 full sprints, and I had half a submarine sandwich for lunch at 11 am and a small bag of baked Lays.

You've got no base. You just can't go out and start running sprints without any base fitness.

You don't need to be doing sprints. Just go out and run and try to go a little faster maybe every other or every third day. Don't kill yourself doing the faster days, either. Run on what I call the edge of comfort. If you can run 2 to 3 miles a day that should be plenty.

A mile and a half in 12 minutes is pretty easily done with two months training.
 
A mile and a half in 12 minutes is pretty easily done with two months training.

Not for me....I've never been much of a runner. My best run time I think was a 12.52. But I am hoping to improve. We usually run 3 times a week, I am guessing I'll need to do it 5 times a week.
 
I am a cyclist, and former runner (ran a lot in the Marine Corps) always did the 3 mile at around 19 minutes flat.

That said, thats not blazing fast, but in hind sight, i have learned a few things that would have applied to running that have made a big improvement in my cycling.

First off, you need a fitness base. If you havent been running you are going to hurt all over for a little while. Generally I have found that a fitness routine doesnt start feeling like a routine till about a month in.

As far as workouts go, if you have extra weight you need to burn off, start running longer distances and compensate by lowering intensity. This is not going to make you much faster but will get your body in the condition to get faster.

If you are at a good weight, start off easy.. but the key to going faster is to go hard. After a couple of weeks figure out what you can do in a 20 minute maximal effort. Once you get an idea of what that kind of pace feels like, you will be structuring your speed workouts around that

Once a week work in a couple of intervals of 10 mins at the 20 minute pace with 10 minute running rest inbetween, another day do 5 minute intervals at a faster pace than your 20 minute time. You should feel like you are giving your all for the 5 mins. Figure out how many of these you can do with 5 mins of rest between them. 3 of them will give you a 30 minute total run time. I would mix in a third hard workout in the week of spontanous intensity, like trail running with a friend that is fast. Look at keeping it at 20 mins of max intensity.

Beyond that, rest rest rest. Other days you can fill with light runs for active recovery

Im no expert, but one thing I have definitely learned is that you won't get fast if you don't run fast. Just putting miles in will keep you at the kind of pace I was running (that was my mistake).
In the short while I was using a similar regimen to the one I posted above but for cycling, my power improved dramatically all the while having a smaller training volume.
 
Pablo and Blob hit the nail on the head. You've got no base, so you have to build up to your desired distance/speed. Pablo has given good advice, longer distance/lower intensity. To run fast 5K's it helps to be able to run 5 miles easily. Over distance training works great for distances up to about 1/2 marathons. After that it takes just too much to recover.

The only thing I would add would be some core training. Some low weight/high rep weight training would work also (think endurance, not bulk up). Don't forget to give you body some rest days. That doesn't necessarly mean sitting on the couch. Active rest could be a walk with the little woman, mowing the yard or a nice bike ride. I would also add try to do as much of your running as possible on dirt/grass and have a good pair or two of running shoes.

Don't try to do too much too fast. It will just lead to injuries.
John
 
interval training

If you have been in decent cardiovascular shape before, it will take significantly less time for you to get it back...kinda like muscle memory. I'm in the Army, and have been doing this since 1991. Between deployments, military schools, TDY trips and such I've had times when I had to prep for an APFT in little to no time. My advice is run 2-3x per week, and throw the bike or stair stepper in every other run day. The mile and a half is a short distance, concentrate when you run on doing interval training. Sprints (80%) of 1/8 to 1/4 mile followed by a cooldown (40-50%) of the same distance (1/8 to 1/4 mile) for a total of 1 1/2 - 2 mile distance. These will quickley get your cardio back, I can get myself into decent running shape by doing the above workout in about a 3 week period. You gotta know your body though, don't push it too hard....:D
 
Pablo and 6appeal are correct. You have to train and keep training. Now, for cramps the best thing is plenty of fluids, mainly water, coffee, sodas and anything that has caffeine is not good for you; it actually dehydrates you faster. Plenty of fruits will help with your cramps especially bananas... they are high in potasium and that's what the muscle needs when exercising.

Take it from me, I'm 37 and have to make sure I keep up with the young bucks that always want a good challenge.:biggrin:
 
I will say this, while training buy the best shoes money can buy. I quit running 30 years ago after paying my way through college by running track and cross country; I am still paying today with foot problems though. You are lucky that shoes are much better today than they were in the 70's. Take your time and build into it, don’t hurt yourself. Try to run on grass if you can while training, I know, hard to find a good place for that. Be sure to warm up by stretching some, but don’t over do it. Try to lengthen you stride a little, find the comfort zone where you cover as much ground as you can each stride and feel relaxed. Drink plenty of fluids and be sure to cool off after your run. Don't just sit down or stand there bent over, walk around and breath deep. Now this is coming from an old retired middle distance runner that was made to run cross country.:cool:

Jim
 
Thanx everyone

We have a rubberized track that we run on. That's where they'll test me.

I have a pair of running shoes, not sure they're the best (Addidas) but I think they may be getting a little thin in the soles so I may look into some new ones.

I usually do try and drink water but not to the point of where it's sloshing around in my gut while I run. Yuck.

And you're right I think I overshot it this time, just thought I could do it but I guess not.

I'm going back tomorrow to run, I think I'm going to try running 2 miles but not totally push myself so I don't run out of steam so fast.

And yeah i think I'll limit my drinking of coffee in the AM, just have to figure a way of getting up w/o it.
 
I usually do try and drink water but not to the point of where it's sloshing around in my gut while I run. Yuck.

Forget the water. You're not running long enough to need it and it can cause problems. Drink something when you're done if you want to.

As far as workouts, do what Pablo suggested and you'll be fine.
 
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