Kind of a new to the forum and this has been talked about a bunch of times but I need to know what is the best external or internal downpipe out there I was looking as previous threads and I cant find a proper answer to my question I was going to repair my old ATR downpipe but when I removed it I forgot I had to hammer it flat for clearance issues I would like to find one that will fit without modify it to much oh and it needs to be able to clear a first gen ATR headers price is not a big concern as long as it good quality (I been burned too many times to keep track) thanks