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Nelson Ramos

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Can anybody tell me the reason when I turn off my stock grand national the fan goes on and while it's running it stays off?

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Replace it with piece of mind that you don't have a rusted up POS that's going to short out in the middle of the night and/or drain your battery while you sleep.

it's the big one on the drivers side fenderwell with two plugs attached to it.
 
Your delay comes on (key off) because coolant temp has reached high level >220 somewhere around there. If fan is not working then relays are bad. Turn on ac fan should come on.
 
Yeah i had the same issue the other evening & when it did it my fan ran like way faster than normally does. How can i make it run that fast when im driving it & i flip it on?
 
Jump out the resistor on the fan motor. Then your two speeds with be 'high' and 'high'. To manually command hi speed, ground out the Grn/yellow wire on the intake manifold.
 
The fan has a white bar that goes across the one side when it gets power turns on the low speed. The otherside when it gets power will jump the fan to high speed. Add a 12 gauge wire connecting the two terminals on the one resistor and your high speed will work anytime your fan comes on. I added a switch that takes the green wire from the high speed fan relay and grounds it. Once that wire is grounded it will turn the fan on high speed. It much easier to do the first method.
 
I had this problem the other day also. Turned out it is my fan switch that is mounted in the intake manifold on the top near the TB linkage. When I unplug it does not happen. It is the switch that activates when car is > 220. I have unplugged it and will replace it when I get a chance.

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Most people that that switch out and use the hole for an after market temp gauge.


If you jump out the resistor on the fan, you're in high speed mode long before that switch will command it.
 
The Delay Relay has been number one on the electrical problem roster. It was designed to turn on the coolant fan when the car is stopped, only if the coolant temperature rises above a "critical" point; generally on super hot days, when the car runs the hottest. It was an attempt to cool down the system. However, it'd only cool the radiator fins and not really do a very good job of cooling the engine, since the water pump wasn't running with the engine off. So, it's not really that useful.

The real problem comes when you look at its design. It's an unsealed electronic module with a circuit board inside. And, it's located on the drivers side inner fender well, right in the line of fire for water to fall into it. And it does. Gets inside, damages the circuitry, turns metallic parts into rust. Ahd, here's where the problem kicks in. The rusted metal potentially falls into the electrical connections, causing shorts. Best-case, the short will keep your fan running all night, until your battery dies. Worst-case, the short will back-feed your fuse panel, keeping the car running even when you remove the key. I've seen it happen many times. Lots of guys replace their battery, alternator, and spend hours trying to figure out why the car battery dies overnight - only to find the culprit being the Delay Relay.

Fact is, the car is much better off without it. Since most of us have already replaced the factory 190 deg thermostat with a 160, and probably have already replaced the almost-dead radiator with a better one, you really won't see excessive temperatures in your cooling system anyway.

Earl Brown gave you some sound advice. Just wear safety glasses when you whack it with a sledge hammer.

Look at http://www.installationinstructions.com/FYI/delay-relay.pdf for a repeat of what I just wrote.
 
John, thanks for that info! I am in the middle of a rewire of the entire electrical system, and I will just pull out this relay and be done with it.
 
Jump out the resistor on the fan motor. Then your two speeds with be 'high' and 'high'. To manually command hi speed, ground out the Grn/yellow wire on the intake manifold.
How much cooling diffrence will it make for the engine to jump the fan to run hi speed all the time when its turned on?
 
It'll run on slow until you're engine gets hot enough to run on high.....

why let it get that hot in the first place?
 
What would I have to do to remove it and keep the fan working?

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