ford announces 06 shelby cobra mustang

[19TTA89]

Originally posted by salvageV6
I wonder if they're gonna burn to the ground while they sit in your driveway like the other Ford products?

Hopefully cruise control is an option.

Would that be any different than the Chevy Tahoe/GMC Yukon's Lights in the running boards going on fire and burning the truck up???

(Caution...Stepping on Running board could result in hot foot!!...)

And that isnt a plug for ford...Im going to buy a yukon/Tahoe soon...And read up on the Recalls on them....Lets not even talk about the TrailBlazers Recall.

 

[The Darkside]

My brother has an '04 Cobra & has done a few mods to it like pulley's, chip, intercooler, plus a couple other things. I know he went to a mustang dyno & dyno'd 400 hp..

 

[RKturbo6]

All the talk of a pulley change and what not makes the Cobra whip out 600+ Hp. But a simple NOS kit and you have 600HP with the GTO + no loss in fuel economy and retain factory warranty ect. Case in point the very stock looking 04 GTO they have at the track down here that runs ultra low 10's with the stock chrome wheels and DR's running a pretty big shot of juice.

The new Cobras and the Shelbys are plenty quick no doubt and can be made to go a whole lot faster but I am not ready to crown them the kings of all that is fast just yet.

 

[ViciousV6]

Originally posted by RKturbo6
All the talk of a pulley change and what not makes the Cobra whip out 600+ Hp. But a simple NOS kit and you have 600HP with the GTO + no loss in fuel economy and retain factory warranty ect. Case in point the very stock looking 04 GTO they have at the track down here that runs ultra low 10's with the stock chrome wheels and DR's running a pretty big shot of juice.

The new Cobras and the Shelbys are plenty quick no doubt and can be made to go a whole lot faster but I am not ready to crown them the kings of all that is fast just yet.

Nitrous will zap that warranty just as quick as a pulley change. The can't detect a pulley change any easier than juice, so long as you swap the stocker back on. I don't recommend either, as I think you have to pay to play. If you break it, the manufacturer shouldn't be paying for it. Don't forget that a lot of dealerships are checking plugs and running oil analysis to check for nitrous and octane booster. More than one Terminator got warranty denial for this, and don't think that GM won't be stepping up their warranty watch dogs. Any company in financial trouble needs to make cuts.

Also, nitrous works just as well on the Cobras, so that card can't only be played by the GTO crowd.

 

[RKturbo6]

Somehow I do not see a Supercharged Cobra adding a 175+hp or even close NOS kit like the GTO guys are running. Same with Turbo cars. You see a FEW guys with blown cars adding small (50-75) juice kits to help spoolup or a little more on the top end but saying a blown Cobra guys are running juice is like saying GTO guys are running a Lingenfelter blower as well. Lets keep it a little realistic here.

As far as warranty. If my memory serves me correctly (It has been awhile since I have run an NOS kit although I have ran it on several cars up to a 350 shot) they do make carb exempt kits. And I know Lingenfelter is not the only one that makes supercharger kits for the GTO and have a warranty. This would still be as cheap or cheaper and more HP than the Shelby or Saleen cars.

We can go at this all day, but like I said the Cobras and the Shelbys are very nice rides but I do not feel the need to bow and worship them.

 

[Army MP]

Video of the SVT Mustang with Carrol Shelby driving!!!!!

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/MultimediaLanding

 

[19TTA89]

Originally posted by RKturbo6
All the talk of a pulley change and what not makes the Cobra whip out 600+ Hp. But a simple NOS kit and you have 600HP with the GTO + no loss in fuel economy and retain factory warranty ect. Case in point the very stock looking 04 GTO they have at the track down here that runs ultra low 10's with the stock chrome wheels and DR's running a pretty big shot of juice.

The new Cobras and the Shelbys are plenty quick no doubt and can be made to go a whole lot faster but I am not ready to crown them the kings of all that is fast just yet.

I am curious to see how Underrated the Cobra will actually be....And how power its actually gonna put to the rear wheels...

As far as The GTO's and Nitrous.....I wonder why these guys are all spending so much money on these Turbo kits,Heads,Cams,Forged Internals..To run in the 10's...When all they needed was a shot to go "ultra low 10's" I guess that is the fastest GTO around and nobody knows about it...

 

[RKturbo6]

Originally posted by 19TTA89
As far as The GTO's and Nitrous.....I wonder why these guys are all spending so much money on these Turbo kits,Heads,Cams,Forged Internals..To run in the 10's...When all they needed was a shot to go "ultra low 10's" I guess that is the fastest GTO around and nobody knows about it...

Ohhh I am pretty sure he has some work done to the motor. The exhaust sounds like he has a bigger cam at least. Actually it seems like he has run a 10.2 now.

As far as building up a motor I have ran 150+ shot of NOS on a few cars with stock internals. One was a bonestock 96,000 mile 91 GTA with a 305 no less that I ran a 150 hp kit on. Went from 13.9 to 12.4 with nothing else on a set of BFG Zr's. Never had a problem other than kept burning up CF DF clutches.

Actually I have yet to see a turbo GTO. And the guy that owns the shop next ours has a stock 04 GTO runing low 13's (very good driver) and is fixing to put a 100+ shot on it. So well see first hand soon enough.

 

[19TTA89]

Originally posted by RKturbo6
Ohhh I am pretty sure he has some work done to the motor. The exhaust sounds like he has a bigger cam at least. Actually it seems like he has run a 10.2 now.

As far as building up a motor I have ran 150+ shot of NOS on a few cars with stock internals. One was a bonestock 96,000 mile 91 GTA with a 305 no less that I ran a 150 hp kit on. Went from 13.9 to 12.4 with nothing else on a set of BFG Zr's. Never had a problem other than kept burning up CF DF clutches.

Actually I have yet to see a turbo GTO. And the guy that owns the shop next ours has a stock 04 GTO runing low 13's (very good driver) and is fixing to put a 100+ shot on it. So well see first hand soon enough.

Thats cool....I have seen alot of Nitrous cars around here(I live 15 Minutes Away from Raceway Park)...Alot of fast as hell,Cam,Head,Nitrous cars...And I see alot of Cartek cars around here...Being that they are so close..

I am not Knocking the GTO at all...I think it is an excellent platform Driveline wise....Im just not personally Fond of the look...But that Doesnt mean that I cant Admit That there are going to be alot of super fast GTO's Prowling the street..

Here is a link to a couple Turbo GTO's at the track....http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=150078

Not sure if you have seen that thread or not....

Shawn

 

[ViciousV6]

Originally posted by RKturbo6
You see a FEW guys with blown cars adding small (50-75) juice kits to help spoolup or a little more on the top end but saying a blown Cobra guys are running juice is like saying GTO guys are running a Lingenfelter blower as well. Lets keep it a little realistic here.

Tell that to the many 03/04 Cobra owners running juiced on top of stock and aftermarket blowers. There are several that are running 100+ shots, and the net gains are larger with and FI car than NA. No need to aid spool-up with a roots blower. The nitrous is there strictly for power. If they just wanted cooling, they would go with alky, although the jury is still out on whether the alky can damaged the Teflon-coated rotors.

Originally posted by RKturbo6

As far as warranty. If my memory serves me correctly (It has been awhile since I have run an NOS kit although I have ran it on several cars up to a 350 shot) they do make carb exempt kits. And I know Lingenfelter is not the only one that makes supercharger kits for the GTO and have a warranty. This would still be as cheap or cheaper and more HP than the Shelby or Saleen cars.

The CARB rating has nothing to do with warranty. A blower is much easier to pass through warranty the something as finicky as nitrous. Any manufacturer will quickly void your warranty if use of nitrous is detected. The only way you can sneak it by is if the dealer doesn't know, or you're in the with service team. Then there is always the argument of durability, availability, etc, when it comes to nitrous.

Originally posted by RKturbo6

We can go at this all day, but like I said the Cobras and the Shelbys are very nice rides but I do not feel the need to bow and worship them.

I'm not bowing down to anything. If you'll notice, I have already stated that I have no interest in purchasing a Shelby. I like Cobras. I like the GTO. Different strokes to move the world, man.

 

[Brer Rabbit]

agreed vicious

I personally like the styling of the GTO--its not all getto like most of the new cars today. Not to flashy, but clearly all business, and the most attractive aspect of the car is that when I drive the 15 minutes to work I might see 1 GTO if I'm luck conversly, Ive see enough new mustangs on the way to work to make me sick. There a dime a dozen. I'm one of those guys that doesn't want to be like everyone else. Oh and I apologize to whoever started this thread...I didn't mean to turn it into gto vs. mustang debate.