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I have eliminated the mechanical fan and want to see if you can put an intercooler in this location. Does anyone make one? Thanks-Brad
Hot Air Intercooler Between Radiator. & Engine
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Brad, your not leaving us are you??? lol
I've got a stock 87 GN, and I don't see any reason why the intercooler wouldn't bolt right in to a hot air. You probably wouldn't want to get a stock one with all the better flowing aftermarket ones available, but I'm not the right one to be commenting on that. It looks to me like it would be a matter of picking up a couple of the mounting pieces from a 86/87 for it that bolt onto the bottom, (may have to reclock that oil cooler adapter you just got), pick up the air scoop that bolts onto the bottom, cut a slot in the bottom deflector and modify or buy 86/87 front air dams. Get the special crank pulley that has the fan on it. (will just have to use the center piece remember being they have the one serpintine belt.) Accesory wise, Doesn't look like you should have any problems with clearances, except maybe for the inlet side might have to be cut down or modified. From what I have noticed here and there in post, those goose necks on the stock intercoolers are restrictive anyway and are normally the first thing to get modified. but don't quote me on that.
Any pictures of my 87 you need, just let me know, and I'll try and help best I can.
btw, why not just a front mount intercooler? You could buy one with a kit that comes with everything to mount it. You've already done the ramchargers and fbod conversion, cooling shouldn't be a issue. Then you wouldn't have to worry about it getting heat soaked, and theres a couple other benefits, but theres plenty of info on that on this board.
I've seen LimitedLTD's front mount set up, and it just looks wicked with those 2 big pipes going down in front of the engine down around in front of the radiator. (which helps fill up that big gap in front of the engine too.
I've got a stock 87 GN, and I don't see any reason why the intercooler wouldn't bolt right in to a hot air. You probably wouldn't want to get a stock one with all the better flowing aftermarket ones available, but I'm not the right one to be commenting on that. It looks to me like it would be a matter of picking up a couple of the mounting pieces from a 86/87 for it that bolt onto the bottom, (may have to reclock that oil cooler adapter you just got), pick up the air scoop that bolts onto the bottom, cut a slot in the bottom deflector and modify or buy 86/87 front air dams. Get the special crank pulley that has the fan on it. (will just have to use the center piece remember being they have the one serpintine belt.) Accesory wise, Doesn't look like you should have any problems with clearances, except maybe for the inlet side might have to be cut down or modified. From what I have noticed here and there in post, those goose necks on the stock intercoolers are restrictive anyway and are normally the first thing to get modified. but don't quote me on that.
Any pictures of my 87 you need, just let me know, and I'll try and help best I can.
btw, why not just a front mount intercooler? You could buy one with a kit that comes with everything to mount it. You've already done the ramchargers and fbod conversion, cooling shouldn't be a issue. Then you wouldn't have to worry about it getting heat soaked, and theres a couple other benefits, but theres plenty of info on that on this board.
I've seen LimitedLTD's front mount set up, and it just looks wicked with those 2 big pipes going down in front of the engine down around in front of the radiator. (which helps fill up that big gap in front of the engine too.
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Turbobuick2- Sent you a PM. Brad
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Brad,
To answer your question: Sure you can. Many have and I remember seeing some pics of a member who did a GREAT job with it. I remember the pics of the IC and it was a very nice and clean install. He build (with his dad) the complete shroud system. Hopefully he will jump in. Something "XXXX Engineering" stickers on it.
I have a MUCH easier design to add an IC a Hot Air in my head (At least, I think so
). Probably never make one, but it would be FUN to try making one and prove it out. If I could weld aluminum, I would have build one, just for S&G.
To answer your question: Sure you can. Many have and I remember seeing some pics of a member who did a GREAT job with it. I remember the pics of the IC and it was a very nice and clean install. He build (with his dad) the complete shroud system. Hopefully he will jump in. Something "XXXX Engineering" stickers on it.
I have a MUCH easier design to add an IC a Hot Air in my head (At least, I think so
). Probably never make one, but it would be FUN to try making one and prove it out. If I could weld aluminum, I would have build one, just for S&G.ok jerryl... heres your chance, get those wheels in motion... You've got all our moral support!! lol, get yourself a aluminum welder, (or a mig or tig with the appropriate feed, I think you can go the arc welder route too if you've got the aluminum rods? gonna be sloppier though).
Then take a class, or better yet, school of hard knocks, buy some scrap aluminum, and practice away. I want results by this spring. :biggrin: :biggrin:
just giving you a hard time of course, but wouldn't it be cool? (no pun intended)
Then take a class, or better yet, school of hard knocks, buy some scrap aluminum, and practice away. I want results by this spring. :biggrin: :biggrin:
just giving you a hard time of course, but wouldn't it be cool? (no pun intended)
Waco84GN is the guy. Check out the rest of his webshots for more pictures. I am sure he will be chiming in soon. 
Mvc-004f.jpg pictures from racing photos on webshots
I haven't been on this board for a few months, can believe how much I miss the GN world. :frown: Taker easy guys, Nick. :biggrin:
Mvc-004f.jpg pictures from racing photos on webshots
I haven't been on this board for a few months, can believe how much I miss the GN world. :frown: Taker easy guys, Nick. :biggrin:
yessss come to the dark side........
No just kidding... My dad and I made this setup from an old Spearco frount mount setup. We eliminated about 5 feet of pipe and didnt have to hack up the radiator support. I believe if I could do it over I would mount the throttle body inline with the intercooler pipes somehow. It wouldmake the throttle body a blow through instead of a suck through. You would maybe have to do some rethhnking of the vac block because all the lines would see boost instead of all one side of the throttle blade. I know this kit works because you can feel it working even at idle. Just by feeling the pipes with your hands it works. Oh and we had to cut the stub of the water pump off and yes it is pretty tight between the 86-87 style radiator fan and our shroud, but it clears and works. Eventually I'll have time and money at the same time to finish the car.
Thanks for looking
If you have any questions ask on this post or email at mccjazr@aim.com
Jerry Berger
No just kidding... My dad and I made this setup from an old Spearco frount mount setup. We eliminated about 5 feet of pipe and didnt have to hack up the radiator support. I believe if I could do it over I would mount the throttle body inline with the intercooler pipes somehow. It wouldmake the throttle body a blow through instead of a suck through. You would maybe have to do some rethhnking of the vac block because all the lines would see boost instead of all one side of the throttle blade. I know this kit works because you can feel it working even at idle. Just by feeling the pipes with your hands it works. Oh and we had to cut the stub of the water pump off and yes it is pretty tight between the 86-87 style radiator fan and our shroud, but it clears and works. Eventually I'll have time and money at the same time to finish the car.
Thanks for looking
If you have any questions ask on this post or email at mccjazr@aim.com
Jerry Berger
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I remember reading that awhile back. Some good information, it certainly makes sense as far as what results you can expect when you plug and jug to get your best "U". But there are so many variables in the equation that are going to be unique to each car/situation. I suppose thats why its such a benefit to upgrade the stock 86/87 IC. DT is going to depend on how efficient the intercooler is from a flow rate and heat soak perspective (with the stock IC in its stock location), so really, at times, you run a chance its just a washout in a 86/87 stock IC setup , unless your at highway speeds, or the OAT is already pretty low. (Especially if it needs a good cleaning)
Which is old news to most people who have been in the turbobuick community for any length of time, but hey, I've got start somewhere.
Which is old news to most people who have been in the turbobuick community for any length of time, but hey, I've got start somewhere.
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