Here's my setup as of right now
TE-44 turbo running 24-25 psi in all gears
50 lb injectors
extender chip with 23 degrees timing in first gear, 21 in the rest
bone stock motor
fuel pressure 45 psi line off
dual nozzle smc alcohol injection, pump speed on 7, spray on point at 1 lb of boost (as soon as you hit boost it sprays)
straight 93 octane
now here's the deal...i am trying to cure my transitional knock problem...before i had the spray on point at 10 lbs of boost...well i was knocking like crazy at first...you could hear the engine pinging like mad but then it would go away once the alcohol was spraying at full force...of course i didn't like that and i was seeing on turbolink that the esc counts would jump up to like 40-60 counts as soon as i went WOT but then it wouldn't register anymore counts...it registered between 1-5 degrees of retard at first but then would go away...
so i turned down the spray on point all the way to when i hit 1 lb of boost it starts spraying...my turbo spools up like instantly and will hit and peg that 25 psi mark in a hurry...so spraying at 10 lbs of boost was way too late (at least for my car) for that alcohol to take effect right away...
so i took another test run...had turbolink hooked up...this time i only registered 5 counts of esc and no knock retard...i didn't hear the pinging of the motor anymore like i did...amazingly spraying that early doesn't bog the motor like i thought it was going to...when i went WOT the tires were squeeling at 35 mph...
i have verified that both nozzles are indeed spraying because i took off the uppipe and had someone press the test button while i held it over the tank, both nozzles spray perfect
my question is...is it possible to get esc counts but no knock retard??? i mean esc counts are how many times the motor has pinged correct? my o2 mvs during that last run were between 810-825 which is a tad rich but you have to compensate some richness with the alcohol...
does this all make sense and am i doing the right thing? i will keep the car's tune like this for a while and hopefully i won't see anymore knock...the only bad thing is that i cannot go part throttle or the alcohol will spray and bog the motor...it's either WOT or no throttle for me now
which i don't really mind
another thing i thought about...was with this extender chip, since it has high timing in first gear...i wonder if that high timing was the main cause of the startup knock i was getting and then it tailed off later because the timing would drop to 21 degrees...
TE-44 turbo running 24-25 psi in all gears
50 lb injectors
extender chip with 23 degrees timing in first gear, 21 in the rest
bone stock motor
fuel pressure 45 psi line off
dual nozzle smc alcohol injection, pump speed on 7, spray on point at 1 lb of boost (as soon as you hit boost it sprays)
straight 93 octane
now here's the deal...i am trying to cure my transitional knock problem...before i had the spray on point at 10 lbs of boost...well i was knocking like crazy at first...you could hear the engine pinging like mad but then it would go away once the alcohol was spraying at full force...of course i didn't like that and i was seeing on turbolink that the esc counts would jump up to like 40-60 counts as soon as i went WOT but then it wouldn't register anymore counts...it registered between 1-5 degrees of retard at first but then would go away...
so i turned down the spray on point all the way to when i hit 1 lb of boost it starts spraying...my turbo spools up like instantly and will hit and peg that 25 psi mark in a hurry...so spraying at 10 lbs of boost was way too late (at least for my car) for that alcohol to take effect right away...
so i took another test run...had turbolink hooked up...this time i only registered 5 counts of esc and no knock retard...i didn't hear the pinging of the motor anymore like i did...amazingly spraying that early doesn't bog the motor like i thought it was going to...when i went WOT the tires were squeeling at 35 mph...
i have verified that both nozzles are indeed spraying because i took off the uppipe and had someone press the test button while i held it over the tank, both nozzles spray perfect
my question is...is it possible to get esc counts but no knock retard??? i mean esc counts are how many times the motor has pinged correct? my o2 mvs during that last run were between 810-825 which is a tad rich but you have to compensate some richness with the alcohol...
does this all make sense and am i doing the right thing? i will keep the car's tune like this for a while and hopefully i won't see anymore knock...the only bad thing is that i cannot go part throttle or the alcohol will spray and bog the motor...it's either WOT or no throttle for me now

another thing i thought about...was with this extender chip, since it has high timing in first gear...i wonder if that high timing was the main cause of the startup knock i was getting and then it tailed off later because the timing would drop to 21 degrees...