Julio's True Street Results

[Kevin87TurboT]

It looks like Julio is have a big time this weekend! I just saw the results of the NMCA True Street class at Bradenton. He ended up with the 6th quickest average of the weekend.

Julio Don 34 Pontiac 89 Trans Am 11.506 11.085 11.654 11.415

Way to go Julio!

 

[pacecarta]

whats the requirement or rather limitations of the true steet class?

 

[Kevin87TurboT]

This is it in a nutshell:
True Street is a racing class for mildly modified to heavy modified high performance street vehicles that are street certified and able to drive over a 30-mile distance. All model years and engine types and power adders permitted. Class is designed for stock-chassis or back-half type vehicles running true 10.5" wide tires. Vehicles must be registered, licensed, and insured.
There aren't a lot of rules in that class.
Kevin

 

[Razor]

Thanks bro.. my first run was my first run.. I havent had any time on the car at a track since it was put together. It ran 11.50 first pass at 18 PSI. So I turned the boost up 2 PSI.. trying to get it closer to the 11.0.. Bamm.. did it with 11.08.. then I needed a 10.5-10.6 run.. so I turned the boost up some more.. and got more aggressive with launch Boost.. this time at 12 PSI .. well it blew the tires and ran the 11.6 run with a 2.1 60 foot at 125.xx this was at 23 PSI. Trick is to average 11.0 on the 3 runs. It averaged 11.41

I had a great time.. too bad lack of seat time did me in.

BG last year I had all week dialing the car in. Yesterday.. no nothing.. make 3 back to back runs.. last run my coolant temp hit 220

Cheers

Julio

 

[WiskeyJack]

How Much

How much money you got tied up in that 3800 pound cheese slicer?

 

[Razor]

There is an alky class at BG this year. Less than a month away.. Come on out and take the throne from the King. Last year the car took all three awards, fastest.. quickest.. most consistant.. on a full tank of 93. 10.57 at 132.7 is your target

 

[Dreamcar86]

There is an alky class at BG this year. Less than a month away.. Come on out and take the throne from the King. Last year the car took all three awards, fastest.. quickest.. most consistant.. on a full tank of 93. 10.57 at 132.7 is your target

Hey Julio,

Post your setup. i.e. - turbo, intercooler, etc. Those are very impressive et's!

 

[WiskeyJack]

No Disrespect

There is an alky class at BG this year. Less than a month away.. Come on out and take the throne from the King. Last year the car took all three awards, fastest.. quickest.. most consistent.. on a full tank of 93. 10.57 at 132.7 is your target

No disrespect intended I had a 87 Formula 350 was one of the most elegant looking and best handleing cars I ever had. The rear spoiler gave it the name of cheese cutter and I've called them that ever sense.
My question is aimed more at the response of how much more am I going to have to throw into my car before I get a decent ride. I've seen your car and am quite sure it's fast and I wouldn't come at you with a V 6 I'd be running a motor I understand a little more like a 572 big block with nitrous and a four speed. These Buick's are still somewhat a mystery and misery to me. I understand the basic principle but tuning was always a problem as before I got the motor done I had a gremlin I never found (my have been a really badly cracked set of headers) and would not run worth beans.
Having a lot better luck this year O2's are staying put and cam has it pulls hard to 6200 (Jack Built Me A Good Motor)but still playing with the Idea of a FAST system a 70 Duel ball and some larger injectors. This is where my question came from and If I did all the above how street-able would the car be. These little motors run there hearts out for us but when the day is done there still a little V6 I could pound on my old 396 SS-RS 68 Camaro all day it was a 375 hp. and was worked on and I'd put that against your records very consistent but those days are gone and I'm here working on this V6 because I don't give up on anything till I beat it.
I guess I'm looking for you to see if you'll share information to get me where I want to be in the low 11 or high 10's. Allys systems aside what is the recipe for your success.
I'm not such a big a** as I mike myself out to be. and yes I'm hoping to be there in a month.
Frank

 

[Razor]

Frank,
I think you need to get what you have figured out. And only make changes as data merits it. We get too caught up in making modifications assumming the modifications will yield a positive result.. and as a result.. we more times go backwards instead of forward.

Last year on junk my car flew. In the quest to make a better mousetrap I threw a lot of money at building a stronger engine, larger turbo, etc.. What I ended up with was a engine that needed to come out due to machine shop error, a turbo too large too spool on the converter I had, and a lack of time to sort things out.

New engine appears to be working as should.. only time will tell.. but with racing, the only certainty is it will eventually let go.. sooner or latter.. then back to drawing board.

If you want ultra reliable, stay away from small displacement and boost. These can be finicky motors.. and require a heightened sense of awareness when racing them. The better the engine management, the more data, the more seat time behind the wheel.. the better and more predictable your results.

Your motor should run what you want as is. Last BG in the TAI class, Russ Merritt had Joe Mooney's car run 11.2 on a GT3255 turbo with a stock long block, pump gas, drag radials, etc... But.. seat time and data/experience is what is needed.

 

[WiskeyJack]

Thanks

One thing that doesn't dictate what I do to a car is "how fast" as both of us know there is always someone out there with a faster car no matter if its on the street or track there are Buick's running in the 8's.
I want it all I want fast but with street manners and reliability. If I wanted brute force I know how to make it and it's not a 6. I've owned a bunch of big inch cars and it's proven over and over inches make power reliably. BUT this Buick with the new motor is a real joy to drive. I took a WRX STI owner for a drive and absolutely wowed him and I'm only running 21#. The motor runs strong no pops spits or sputters 1XX came and went in a flash. Also tuning this year makes sense I make a change watch the scan master and I see results so this year I'll stay as you say figure it out first and make what I have run a little harder then maybe next year I'll step it up a little. I've got a few years yet till I go back to a Vette and call it quits on this car. Most likely will keep it as no other car has given me such grief.
Hope to see you at BG this year.
FWG

 

[Grumpy]

There is an alky class at BG this year.

 

[Razor]

Hey Julio,

Post your setup. i.e. - turbo, intercooler, etc. Those are very impressive et's!

http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/tu...-top-spot-please-post1188853.html#post1188853

HTH

 

[UNDER-PRESSURE]

There is an alky class at BG this year. Less than a month away.. Come on out and take the throne from the King. Last year the car took all three awards, fastest.. quickest.. most consistant.. on a full tank of 93. 10.57 at 132.7 is your target

Where can i find the rules or Alky class description?

 

[Razor]

Where can i find the rules or Alky class description?

GS NATIONALS RACE RULES .:. MAY 15 - 19, 2007 :: Buick GSCA GS Nationals.

TAI class

 

[yullose]

I read the rules, and didn't notice anything pertaining to transbrakes...(Unless I missed it)

I'm already disqualified for a number of reasons anyway, so it really doesn't concern me... just thought i'd point it out.

May 15-19 is a bad week for that gig... It's the same week as the big car show / cruise in Ocean City, MD. Been going there for several years now...otherwise I'd probably drag my GN to the GS Nats instead.

 

[Razor]

Rules were changed on agreement by those participating. Like the cutout deal.. we allowed it last year. If you get 10 cars.. then the 10 racers get together and make agreements. My TTA and Joe's TTA had T-brakes. The race on quickest and fastest doesnt take reaction time into account.. so it didnt matter. The bracket portion.. ahh.. that one did.

The only car we didnt allow into the class was the 69 Buick powered Camaro. He only had a 5 gallon cell, was 300-400 lbs too light, had nitrous, etc.. the rules at that point were.. sorry. And the basic rule was to have 10 gallons of 93 fit into the stock tank.... and race on the same.

See ya'll in two weeks

 

[Grumpy]

as far as "rules" .. I'd say it has to be an 87 black car .... 66 turbo ... V4 intercooler .... and just to make it interesting it has to be driven by a girl

 

[Razor]

Dont know about that Girl thing.. Ohh and 66 MM turbo's have just been outlawed in that class

TTYL

J.

 

[UNDER-PRESSURE]

Any prizes for being the slowest car in the class??

 

[Razor]

You get a winter jacket