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JDEstill

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Does your wife, daughter, sister, girlfriend, etc... have bad periods? Read the following, and I hope it helps someone out there. If just one of you guys catches this early for the woman in your life...

Amazingly enough, having painful periods is not "normal". Common, yes, but normal, no. Like heart disease, it is common thing, but it is not the way her body is supposed to work. The pain is a sign that something is wrong. In my wife's case, and many other women's, it is the sign of a disease called endometriosis.

Some scary facts to lay the groundwork:
- The average time between the onset of symptoms and the time a girl or women first tells her doctor about them is about 4 years or so
- The average time between the time a women first tells a Dr about her symptoms and she finally gets diagnosed correctly is 4 to 5 years
- So, between the first onset of symptoms and the first correct diagnosis averages 9 years. That's just the average.
- It's very underdiagnosed. Many women suffer from it for years and never get diagnosed. It's a lot more common than you think...

And it gets worse...
- the average women sees at least 4 doctors before one of them gets the diagnosis right
- you'd think that this being a disease related to the female organs, the OB/GYNs would be all over it. The fact is, all they tend to know about is delivering babies and doing pap smears. As a group they are completely ignorant about endometriosis.
- from a survey of 4,000 women with endo, 55% reported that their doctors had either taken their symptoms "not seriously at all" or "not very seriously".
- 61% of the women were told by their doctors that "nothing is wrong"
- of those told that nothing was wrong, 69% said it was their gynecologist that had told them this!
- In other words, your wife/gf/etc... might have told her regular ob/gyn about these symptoms, and the odds are greater than 50/50 that her Dr just ignored it all, told her she was fine, and that everything is normal!

So, what's the sympotms?
- #1 symptom is pelvic pain, especially during their periods. Pelvic pain at other times of the month (such as during ovulation) is also quite common.
Does her period knock her out for a few days, leaving her on the couch on a heating pad? Prime candidate right there.
- fatigue and exhaustion is reported by most
- diarrhea, painful bowel movements, and other intestinal upsets during their periods is another big sign, over 75% of women with endo have a problem with this. Abdominal bloating too. Being diagnosed with Irritible Bowel Syndrome (IBS) is a common prelude to finding out they have endo.
- pain during or after sex is another common symptom
- infertility. Endo is a very common cause of this
- there is a very strong link between allergies and endo, the majority of endo patients seem to have allergies of some sort

My wife's story:
- real bad, painful periods most of her life, from late teens onward. Leaves her on the couch for a few days hugging the ole heating pad.
- pain (usually a burning sensation) during and after sex from her early-mid 20's onward
- occasional bouts of bad diarrhea mixed with constipation from her mid 20's onward
- intestinal problems get worse as she gets older. Starts seeing a gastroenterologist around 1994. He finds nothing wrong
- has to quit her job in 1997 at age 29 due to a prolonged bout with the intestinal problems. Lasts a good 6 months or so before she gets better. More gastro visits and a colonoscopy turn up nothing. She looks perfect inside.
- next few years the intestinal problems come and go. During this time the gastros diagnose her with IBS, which means "we don't know what the hell is wrong with you". They give some pills that don't help, and diet advice that is worthless. "if it bothers you when you eat it, don't eat it again." They do say to go to a gynecologist to make sure the problems aren't related to any female parts
- several visits to multiple ob/gyns turn up nothing. She is accused of being anorexic (since she is so skinny due to the intestinal problems, at some times food is coming out the other end within half an hour of her eating it). She is told we need to use KY to stop the burning sensation during sex, that painful periods are normal (so many women have them) and basically that she looks just great on the inside. She is told all this by both male and female doctors.
- gets to the point where sometimes she can hardly walk due to the pain. Spends more of her life on the couch than not.
- gets a referral to an infertility specialist since we've been wondering why she's never gotten pregnant
- See him in late 2001. He's got her diagnosed within 10 minutes of walking in the door, because her symptoms are so damn obvious to a Dr that actually knows something.
- All those years wasted and those ignorant mother ****in doctors...

My advice: if you have a woman in your life with some of the above symptoms, get her to the Dr. This kind of pain is pure hell, and it gets worse as time goes by. You don't want to let her go untreated any longer! Don't let her go to her regular old ob/gyn. They are amazingly ignorant of this. Call around and ask if the Dr has experience with endometriosis before you let her go there. Your best bet may be a fertility specialist, such as a reprodutive endocrinologist. Endo is such a common cause of infertility that they tend to be more familiar with endo than other Drs. You might get a referral from the Endometriosis Association http://www.endometriosisassn.org/endo.html There are things that can be done, anyone that wants to know more just let me know. My wife and I have learned a lot of good stuff, and help is out there.

John Estill
 
JDEstill,
Thanks alot for the info. My current girlfriend of 4 months has always had bad/painful periods. Now I don't know all of her symptoms, and it's not a bad as your wife's, but at least I can tell her to get it checked out to make sure she's fine and if not get treatment.

Sorry to hear about your wife. Hope everything can turn out fine for her. My thoughts and pryaers are with you and your wife.

Kevin
 
my ex-girlfriend has this too, she looked like she was always in alot of pain. Its not something to be taken lightly either, her 2 older sisters and mom have already had surgery for it. Kinda makes you happy to be a male sometimes :p
 
Hey man, sorry about your wife, and I know this is the Turbo Lounge, but I think we have to draw the line somewhere!:eek: This is not exactly the web site where I want to see crap like this posted. Tell us about the GN or somethin man!
 
Originally posted by GNFURY
Hey man, sorry about your wife, and I know this is the Turbo Lounge, but I think we have to draw the line somewhere!:eek: This is not exactly the web site where I want to see crap like this posted. Tell us about the GN or somethin man!

No, GNFURY, you are wrong. I think John's notice is thoughtful and appropriate. When you get married, and have to deal with the many marvelous and terrifying mysteries that are "wife," you will treasure every single bit of advice that could assist you, in even the smallest way, in smoothing the pathway of marital coexistence. You, my young friend, have no idea.
 
No, GNFURY, you are wrong. I think John's notice is thoughtful and appropriate. When you get married, and have to deal with the many marvelous and terrifying mysteries that are "wife," you will treasure every single bit of advice that could assist you, in even the smallest way, in smoothing the pathway of marital coexistence. You, my young friend, have no idea.

And that's why this section is the Turbo Lounge.

JDEstill....I know alot of guys out there who read your post is saying, "Oh that's why".

and the other one's that didn't read this yet, are still saying "yes dear", "right away dear".:) :)

Or they're at the check out counter getting ultra thicked with wings.:D :D
 
Originally posted by JDEstill
Does your wife, daughter, sister, girlfriend, etc... have bad periods? Read the following, and I hope it helps someone out there. If just one of you guys catches this early for the woman in your life...

Amazingly enough, having painful periods is not "normal". Common, yes, but normal, no. Like heart disease, it is common thing, but it is not the way her body is supposed to work. The pain is a sign that something is wrong. In my wife's case, and many other women's, it is the sign of a disease called endometriosis.

Some scary facts to lay the groundwork:
- The average time between the onset of symptoms and the time a girl or women first tells her doctor about them is about 4 years or so
- The average time between the time a women first tells a Dr about her symptoms and she finally gets diagnosed correctly is 4 to 5 years
- So, between the first onset of symptoms and the first correct diagnosis averages 9 years. That's just the average.
- It's very underdiagnosed. Many women suffer from it for years and never get diagnosed. It's a lot more common than you think...

And it gets worse...
- the average women sees at least 4 doctors before one of them gets the diagnosis right
- you'd think that this being a disease related to the female organs, the OB/GYNs would be all over it. The fact is, all they tend to know about is delivering babies and doing pap smears. As a group they are completely ignorant about endometriosis.
- from a survey of 4,000 women with endo, 55% reported that their doctors had either taken their symptoms "not seriously at all" or "not very seriously".
- 61% of the women were told by their doctors that "nothing is wrong"
- of those told that nothing was wrong, 69% said it was their gynecologist that had told them this!
- In other words, your wife/gf/etc... might have told her regular ob/gyn about these symptoms, and the odds are greater than 50/50 that her Dr just ignored it all, told her she was fine, and that everything is normal!

So, what's the sympotms?
- #1 symptom is pelvic pain, especially during their periods. Pelvic pain at other times of the month (such as during ovulation) is also quite common.
Does her period knock her out for a few days, leaving her on the couch on a heating pad? Prime candidate right there.
- fatigue and exhaustion is reported by most
- diarrhea, painful bowel movements, and other intestinal upsets during their periods is another big sign, over 75% of women with endo have a problem with this. Abdominal bloating too. Being diagnosed with Irritible Bowel Syndrome (IBS) is a common prelude to finding out they have endo.
- pain during or after sex is another common symptom
- infertility. Endo is a very common cause of this
- there is a very strong link between allergies and endo, the majority of endo patients seem to have allergies of some sort

My wife's story:
- real bad, painful periods most of her life, from late teens onward. Leaves her on the couch for a few days hugging the ole heating pad.
- pain (usually a burning sensation) during and after sex from her early-mid 20's onward
- occasional bouts of bad diarrhea mixed with constipation from her mid 20's onward
- intestinal problems get worse as she gets older. Starts seeing a gastroenterologist around 1994. He finds nothing wrong
- has to quit her job in 1997 at age 29 due to a prolonged bout with the intestinal problems. Lasts a good 6 months or so before she gets better. More gastro visits and a colonoscopy turn up nothing. She looks perfect inside.
- next few years the intestinal problems come and go. During this time the gastros diagnose her with IBS, which means "we don't know what the hell is wrong with you". They give some pills that don't help, and diet advice that is worthless. "if it bothers you eat it, don't eat it again." They do say to go to a gynecologist to make sure the problems aren't related to any female parts
- several visits to multiple ob/gyns turn up nothing. She is accused of being anorexic (since she is so skinny due to the intestinal problems, at some times food is coming out the other end within half an hour of her eating it). She is told we need to use KY to stop the burning sensation during sex, that painful periods are normal (so many women have them) and basically that she looks just great on the inside. She is told all this by both male and female doctors.
- gets to the point where sometimes she can hardly walk due to the pain. Spends more of her life on the couch than not.
- gets a referral to an infertility specialist since we've been wondering why she's never gotten pregnant
- See him in late 2001. He's got her diagnosed within 10 minutes of walking in the door, because her symptoms are so damn obvious to a Dr that actually knows something.
- All those years wasted and those ignorant mother ****in doctors...

My advice: if you have a woman in your life with some of the above symptoms, get her to the Dr. This kind of pain is pure hell, and it gets worse as time goes by. You don't want to let her go untreated any longer! Don't let her go to her regular old ob/gyn. They are amazingly ignorant of this. Call around and ask if the Dr has experience with endometriosis before you let her go there. Your best bet may be a fertility specialist, such as a reprodutive endocrinologist. Endo is such a common cause of infertility that they tend to be more familiar with endo than other Drs. You might get a referral from the Endometriosis Association http://www.endometriosisassn.org/endo.html There are things that can be done, anyone that wants to know more just let me know. My wife and I have learned a lot of good stuff, and help is out there.

John Estill

Hey thanks a mil John,
My wife has i would say 90% of the symptoms and she is in so much pain during period time, but now she is pregnonant and pain is gone. Except for the sex pain
 
Originally posted by GNFURY
Hey man, sorry about your wife, and I know this is the Turbo Lounge, but I think we have to draw the line somewhere!:eek: This is not exactly the web site where I want to see crap like this posted. Tell us about the GN or somethin man!

I really appreciated the help from him, it helps when you have problems like this and dont know where to look for help.
Thanks John
 
Originally posted by GNFURY
Hey man, sorry about your wife, and I know this is the Turbo Lounge, but I think we have to draw the line somewhere!:eek: This is not exactly the web site where I want to see crap like this posted. Tell us about the GN or somethin man!

I can't believe you're this insensitive...My fiancee has most of those symptoms and I always wondered what the problem was, she always blows it off...I'm getting a doc, ASAP.
 
Charles -
glad this helped you out! Keep an eye on your wife. I'm hoping you are one of the lucky ones, sometimes pregnancy cures this. It's the hormone change, getting off the cycle for 9 months can give her body a chance to heal. It's not a given though, sad to say. Still, it's the best "natural" relief, or so says one of my wifes doctors. Surgery and some drugs are the main treatment options.

Interstingly enough, diet is a big thing too. My wife went on a sugar free, low carb diet (very Atkins/Zone/diabetic type diet) and it made a huge difference in how she feels. Apparently there is a link between this disease and insulin. Just FYI.

GNFURY, I can understand not wanting to see this sort of thing here. I wish I was still completely ignorant of all this kind of stuff! But I'm coming up on 10 years of living with someone with this disease, most of that time with it going undiagnosed. I really posted this because of the general lack of knowledge, esp. among doctors. I don't think we need to post the symptoms for lung cancer or heart disease or anything like that, since the general understanding of those things is pretty good. But when you go to Dr after Dr and they have no clue... If I can shorten that time period for some other guy, then I'll be full of warm fuzzies.

Slow91z, Kevin, get your women checked out! And remember to make sure the Dr you send them to is fully aware of the disease and symptoms beforehand, don't want to take them to another ignoramus that just tells them there's nothing wrong.

John
 
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