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psycho6cyl

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What can I really expect from this turbo w a 3000 stall 60# inj a TT chip and a decent 60' boost as of now wont exceed street trim 15-17#. What would street manners be like? And whats the diff w the 32 or 52 wheel?? Thanks...
 
I am assuming that this is a Precision 6131E by seeing the part numbers listed on Jacks site. This turbo has become very popular and was specifically designed for those wanting more kick than any of these turbos, (TE-44 -PT54) without having to run such a high stall converter. It is rated to support up to 615 - 620 flywheel hp when maxed out. The journal bearing version will really love a converter that can flash stall to 3000 and the dual ball bearing version will work on a stock D5 converter and will spool up insanely fast with a 3000 stall. The 60# Mototron injectors and a TT chip will also compliment this turbo very nicely. It will have very good street manners, and at 15-17psi, with other supporting bolt ons (downpipe, intercooler upgrade, exhaust system, RJC power plate, hot wired 340 fuel pump, adj fp reg, scan tool and at least drag radials) it should give you a solid low 12 second combination on 93 octane pump gas. This turbo really starts to come on strong at around 18psi, and will be maxed out at around 29psi, due to the T-31 turbine wheel. It typically comes with a .63 A/R PTE turbine housing and with either standard spring or heavy duty spring actuator, you should not have to port the wastegate hole for solid boost control. I would recommend an RJC boost control valve with this setup as well. This combo above, with sticky tires and suspension mods and either pure race gas, or alky and 93 can push a full weight TR into the very low 11's without too much trouble.

As far as the part numbers are concerned, it might be a typo as I believe that PTE changed the part number from 300-6132 over to 300-1425 for the journal bearing version (PT6131E) and 300-1426 for the dual ball bearing version. (PT6131RE)

http://www.precisionturbo.net/Web-Site-Pricing.pdf

There is however a 6152. This version has the same compressor wheel and compressor cover, but it uses the T350 76 trim turbine wheel. With this turbine wheel, the flywheel hp is raised to 630 when maxed out. Because it uses the T350 turbine wheel, it can be run at higher boost levels. I have personally seen this turbo run up to 32psi before on a Buick application, but I wouldn't push it past that level. The last I heard from Mike at FT and Brian at PTE, was that it was currently only available in journal bearing (PT6152E), even though PTEs price sheet list it available with the dual ball bearing chra. It also comes standard with a .63 A/R PTE turbine housing, but the turbine housings between a 6131E and a 6152E are not interchangeable due to the different turbine wheels. The journal bearing version of the 6152E or 6152S will require a converter that can flash stall to at least 3200 rpm.

Both turbos (6131 and 6152) are available with the standard E cover which has a 3" inlet and a 2" discharge, or the optional TO4S cover which has a 4" inlet and 2.5" discharge.

Here are some example pics of the two compressor covers.

Precision casted E comp cover equipped 61 turbo.


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Garrett TO4S comp cover equipped 67 turbo, but same style cover that can be optioned on the 61 turbo.

PT67-GTQ.jpg


Hope some of this helps.

Patrick
 
Woww

Thats a really indepth answer. I appreciate it. One lalast quest, whats the spool like on that turbo w a stock Dp? Will there bea lot of low end or it does better up top?
 
If you have the correct flash stall converter (stock D5 on the Dual BB version, 3k stall on the journal bearing version) then it would be ok, however, you would see a very significant gain by going with a 3" smooth bend style downpipe vs the factory 90* cast iron elbow 2 1/4" downpipe. Some have reported as much as a 30hp gain.

I highly recommend upgrading the downpipe on any '86-'87 that has a turbo larger than a TE-44.

HTH

Patrick
 
turbo...

Thanks again. I have a set budget to work with for now and I figured inj were more important than Dp.. My track time this yr will maybe 1 if that so im not too worried. Thanks for all the imput.
 
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