ok, stronger than stock. Make sure you do your research as there are different ones for different applications and wants and needs. I have one that is an HR bar that is meant for mostly drag. I also have a UMI track bar that is meant for street and strip. The HR bar is a $550 piece, the Track bar a $300 piece. You will want to see what you want to achieve to give you the results. If you are a casual driver in my personal opinion the stocker is fine, and you box the lower control arms, nothing else is needed.