Re: Rebuttal from SMC
Originally posted by SMC
Geez...a guy can only take so much....
Razor started with a purchased SMC kit years back and used alot of the SMC ideas to design his own system. I have no problem with that. But please don't bash another vendor's products!
Razor thinks that a Shurflo pump is superior, but I disagree. They are BIG, EXTERNAL, NOISY, they PULSATE, and to top it off they come with a sticker proclaiming "NOT RATED FOR FLAMMABLE LIQUIDS" Last time I checked alcohol was very flammable. Or is Razor using that new non-flammable stuff?
Razor also thinks his kit can support more HP.....huh???? SMC offers flow rates up to 25 gph. This should be good for up to 600 HP cars, no problem. Nowhere do we say anthing about SMC's system being only for "stock" cars!!!
The SMC kit offers a line pressure switch that turns on the spray on lite. This guarantees you have spray when the lite is on. We also have a 100 psi guage in place for testing or tuning the system. Razor kit? No.
The SMC kit is more pre-assembled and easier to install. The controller has more features. The pump is mounted in-tank for an easy install.
The underhood electrical connections on the SMC tank/harness have been Weatherpack automotive style for a LONG TIME now. (One easy 4 conductor waterproof plug!) All I see on Razor's kit is 8 old fashioned crimp connectors and 4 crimp on spade terminals.....not very weatherproof or easy........and I hope you have good wiring skills and plenty 'o time to wire it up! Thats a total of 20 crimps. My carpal tunnel is acting up just thinking about that!
Sorry, but the SMC system is still the easiest to install and use of anything out there. The prices are very close if you take all the "option" costs into account. I'm sure they both are capable of doing the job, so 'll let the buyer decide. The GSCA has sold over 60 SMC systems just since the '03 Nats! (See writeups in the GSX-tra) There are now over 1,000 SMC kits on TR's all over the country!!!! And NOT ONE PERSON has taken me up on our "money back" guarantee. That's gotta say something.
Thanks for your Support!
-SMC
You know Steve, I havent bashed your product. Go and search where I have gone and said where mine is better than yours and done a comparo just like your trying to do. My customers speak volumes for the kits out there. I'm sorry I have made something to squeeze you.
But since you want to attack my efforts, instead of replying to direct quotes, here goes.
One, the pumps in question , the shurflo, are 100 percent compatible with alcohol. they have chemical resistant bodies, can run dry, viton seals, can run water, alcohol, mixes..and heres the kicker... they dont fail. Your saying the slight pulsing is a problem, its a non-issue. If not, all the guys with DIY kits would of obviously changed to something else 5 years ago. I also dont agree with a metal pump submerged in a corrossive liquid with exposed terminals.
Two, the connectors, I dont believe in connectors on any connection going to the motor. Solder and heat shrink tubing is included with my kits for that reason..does it mean that the person has to solder.. well most guys who are serious dont have a problem soldering a couple wires. Since the pump doesnt go bad, why not have solid connections.
Three, I use the OEM MAP sensors to trigger my system. Why becuase they dont fail. And eliminates any vacuum leaks from occurring . Let alone on the progressive controller..30 PSI regualtion is the way to go.
Four, Storage is doubled using the factory overflow. 1 gallon on the GN, 1.5 gallons on the TTA(tripled).
Five, the pressure guage mounted under the hood serves no purpose than to offer one more place for a leak to occur. And I dont know how it helps tuning when you cant see it. I guess it does let you know when the pump is starting to fail.
Six, electronics.. My controller offers regulation, suppression, vibration resistance, and ic's that are not susceptible to transient damage within an automotive environment. The pump driver has an extra large heat sink capable of withstanding a 40 amp surge. And the controls operate in a fully linear fashion. My experience repairing automotive stereo's, amplifiers, and 12 volt systems for the last 20 years has been used in designing a product that does not fail.
Seven,"Controller has more features?" This I dont understand how?
Eight, both systems require running wires, drilling holes, and mounting stuff. Wire loom is included with my systems to hide wiring, main pump wire comes shielded to limit RFI interference and is black so it blends under the hood. My controllers are compact so they can be hidden within the interior of the vehicle, and on my PAC, the controls can be integrated into the dash to really make the stealth look.
I'll end with this. I have customers who use wide band O2 sensors and have been able to maintain flat 11.5:1 air fuel ratios while the alcohol is spraying into theyre motors using my PAC. This statement in itself, is something nobody can touch.
Peace Steve, good luck with your endeavors.
