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1000MileStylez

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Me and a few others are building a robot for a school project. Basically it has to follow a black line (electrical tape) and know when to stop and how to stay on course. Anyone know what type of sensors are needed for this? I tried calling a few places but thier tech support sucks.
 
I'll ask my step dad tomorrow, he runs the robotic shows for Kettering university old GMI..

So if you dont get an answer, i hope to have one for ya

Mike
 
Why not magnetic tape?

We have hundreds of them at work that follow magnetic tape. What type of system is it? How are you programming it?

I'll shoot my brother an email and ask him how to get one to follow black tape. He is an expert in that area, building these for many of the Toyota plants across north America gives him much insight as to what the better$$$ systems are.
 
Well basically its going to have to fit in a 12x12x12 square. Its goign to be powered by 2 motors and a 3rd wheel is going to be a caster. Its going to have a crane that does a 180 from front to back on a Z axis using a servo motor and a gripping hand also with a servo. Its going to have 3 server motors at most.


Something similair to this

http://www.lynxmotion.com/images/jpg/a4wd103.jpg

But the crane arm will be on top. Basically its going to be following black tape and pickign up ping pong balls and dumping them in the rear of the robot. to give you a visual, its going to look like a tonka dump truck with a crane arm on top.
 
Ok

I asked my brother about it and he said the systems that follow tape are very unreliable and that's why he doesn't bother building them. I guess when each one is moving a Lexus engine around, you don't playing games.

Can you get away with using magnetic tape?
 
In the 70's we would have tried a light sensor, photocell type, and a phase lock loop or some such circuit.

A white tile floor and black tape would be nice, keep the lights on. :biggrin:
 
In the 70's we would have tried a light sensor, photocell type, and a phase lock loop or some such circuit.

A white tile floor and black tape would be nice, keep the lights on. :biggrin:

Thats what I was thinking,using 2 rows of light sensing diodes to tell it where the line is.
 
We need more info. :confused:

Is it a race? Does it have to move quickly?

How fast at the end of the tape does it have to stop?

One method would be to use two photocells close to the black tape perhaps on a spring loaded mechanism assuming a nice flat tile surface. :smile:

Keep both left and right motors engaged equally for equal light output from each sensor.

That would be a voltage or current reading using 5V power into the photocell resistance.

Use a PIC microcontroller and 2 inputs for data, one output control for each servo, digital out or stepped voltage output to the motor drive circuit.

When one sensor picks up more light than the other slow the proper motor down to compensate for being off course.

The photocells should be equally spaced over the tape for midpoint in the light range of the cells.

The algorithm should be simple to do out on paper and implement with the PIC micro-controller.

You might get it to run fast enough to actually work. :biggrin:

Stopping could be accomplished when both cells detect full light output at the same time.

Under normal movement wandering left or right a bit one cell will become lighter moving off the tape, and one darker going onto the tape.

That would be a good safety algorithm to use initially as well, especially if it gets off course. :eek: :p

I wouldn't be going for speed here. :wink:
 
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Ive used many of these kits. It will run on tape, or inbedded strip. It uses a magnetic sensor to tell it where the track is, and when to stop and go by reading the magnetic pole of the tape. (if the tape is facing up or down). Not a bad set up for smaller things. Definitely not for Lexus engines...but we do use the 780 load rate for transaxles.;)
 
I asked my stepdad and he said all hes doing now is master of ceremony, plus he been outta the loop for so long the last robot he prolly worked on was this
robotnew.jpg
 
You would so win with that robot!!!

It could crush all the other robots that were busy running around following a piece of black tape. As it shouts "DANGER" "DANGER".
 
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