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Yep. I saw a very interesting e-mail on the 4th about the 56 signers of the constitution, of them half were men of great wealth prior to the war. At the end, they ALL lost everything. Most evens lost their families. They stuck with it because they cared more for the future than their own lives. We are all so cushy in our lives now; I would venture to say we would be hard pressed to mount such an action. We also need to remember why we fought for our freedom in the first place: That being, over taxation and too much government intrusion into our every day life by the non-responsive British leadership. Sounds like what we are going through these days? It should. Not that I am advocating a violent attempt to overthrow the government, rather use the tools of OUR constitution and make our voices heard and speak with it LOUDLY. I think it clearly says " Of the people, by the people and for the people", not "from the government to those they feel need it most" We are the government. We need to hire good people, and watch them carefully. Not just scrutinize them every four years. The other thing is, we had over fifty years of social engineering going on with a socialist inclined congress. That will take a number of years to correct their poor guidance. Speak up. VOTE.
 
Originally posted by UNGN
If either of you two expoused libertarian beliefs, I'd totally respect your opinions... but if you voted for Gore...you are talking out of your ***.

Voted for Harry Browne
 
Originally posted by LinearX
See how far you get trying to overthrow the the government. That check may have been put in place for just that reason, but when it comes down to it there is no way out. The Civil War is evidence of that. The South wasn't allowed to leave the Union (regardless of whether the reasons were good or not).

Not true at all. If just 10% of Americans stood up to the military, we'd outnumber them about 30-1. In a time of true turmoil, it could be done.

Secondly, the Civil War is a totally unfair comparisment. They only tried to leave the Union. They never tried to overthrow the government.
 
Originally posted by TurboTer
Not true at all. If just 10% of Americans stood up to the military, we'd outnumber them about 30-1. In a time of true turmoil, it could be done.

Secondly, the Civil War is a totally unfair comparisment. They only tried to leave the Union. They never tried to overthrow the government.

Standing up to the military wouldn't go far, I'm afraid. Numbers don't win a confrontation, superior fire power does. :(

All I'm saying is that there is going to be no impetus to make the government change until they start storming into your house telling you what you can and can't do.

They're still all crooks. :D
 
Sad thing is the South didn't try to leave the Union, they just wanted to be able to ship their raw goods directly to England. The Feds built Ft. Sumner to blockade Charleston Bay to all shipping. Once again, special interest of eastern textiles lead the government into an economic war. Leaving the Union was a result as was slavery an afterthough. But this isn't taught in schools anymore. lol. As far as 10% of the people standing up? That is not even near a reasonable number to be achieved. We would be hard pressed to even outfit that number with guns these days. Enough of that though, let's vote them all out and put in real people that don't want to live in Washington for years at a time.
 
Originally posted by Gothmog
One day when you grow up and learn how the system works you'll understand that admitting affiliation to one particuliar party is like admitting that you are ignorant enough not to understand that you are be used as a pawn in game where you are not a player.

You are welcome to join my party, its the Free thinkers.;)
KAAA CHINNNNGGGG!!!!!!! It's my party too!
 
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