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tom h

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http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-smash14_oct14,1,4940501.story?coll=la-headlines-california
Hoping to discourage illegal drag racing, Los Angeles Police Chief William J. Bratton and Mayor James K. Hahn held a car-crushing demonstration Wednesday at a Sun Valley junkyard intended to send a strong message to violators: Race, and you risk arrest and the demolition of your vehicle...

Bratton and Hahn presided over the destruction of the first vehicle confiscated after the city's car seizure law went into effect in July 2003. The law, aimed at cracking down on street racing, allows for the destruction of "nuisance vehicles." ...

A crane lifted a flat, metal "crusher" that looked like a giant bacon press and dropped it three times on a white 1989 Camaro, sending shards of glass flying. ...

Seven vehicles have been seized since the new confiscation law went into effect. Some will be destroyed and others will be sold for their parts. .
 
So much for the Constitution.
Impound it, and fine the heck out of them but confiscation is just a way of getting people used to the State knowing more then the populace. It's too bad the cops are generally so badly funded, that they have to play games rather then actually be cops.

It's nuts that they close all the drag Strips, and then act stupid about why there is so much street racing. Where do they expect the testostrone (sp) overdosing to take place?. It was a *problem* back when Riverside, Lions, and OCIR were all open, I can't image what it's like now. Not to mention the deaths in SD this year.

And after that Seattle case where the gal had only been driving for a month, I wonder where her parents were. In an on camera interview, the mom was completely clueless that she had anything to do with her daughters death, it was the other participants fault.
 
Why do I get the feeling we're gonna see a lot more police chases becuase of this?
 
The funny thing is that there is a proposition on this year's ballot for a half cent increase in sales tax so we can put more cops on the street. Why do we need more cops if we have enough already that they have time to worry about this kind of stuff? Go catch a drug dealer or better yet a car thief. Bratton is a political hack that will do anything for sensationalism to get his ugly mug on the tv or some ink in the papers.

Sometimes I wonder why I even keep my GN. There aren't any places around here to run it without having to look over my shoulder for cops. Irwindale is only an 1/8th mile and I can't take time off from work to get out there on a Thursday anyway. Fontana and Palmdale are both way out in the middle of nowhere. With the cost of the land here in So Cal there is no way in hell that any new tracks are going to get built.
 
what happens when the cars are financed? I don't think the banks are gonna want to lose their money?
 
Originally posted by TRBON8R
...[police chief] Bratton is a political hack that will do anything for sensationalism to get his ugly mug on the tv or some ink in the papers....
I completely agree.

And what also angers me :mad: is Bratton's increased sales tax proposal would apply to ALL of LA country, and not just his screwed up, 3rd world city of LA. This would make LA county the highest sales tax region in Calif, I think :eek:

Why should people in other regions pay more taxes, for LA's years of mistakes?

Anybody living in LA County should vote "NO on prop A".
 
I think Bratton was from TAXACUSETTS Home of I LOVE to TAX your AZZ off.. That is why I am in NH
 
Originally posted by Drac0nic
Why do I get the feeling we're gonna see a lot more police chases becuase of this?

BINGO,

I think this is only going to lead to more incentive to outrun police. Besides, what are they going to call nuisance vehicles?? Someone who spins the tires because it's raining out?? WTF?? I would love to see someone take this up the ranks of the courts... see if the gov't can seize these people's property. Revoke the priviledge to drive it on the street, sure!! Then they'll have no choice but to take it to the track. Of course there are no tracks. But crushing them?? I just see BAD news coming outta that deal.
 
They take your car get a lawyer! No way the can destroy your property .. I should pass a law next time the police sit on my proterty trying to give out tickets i will crush they cruiser. As I have asked the officers several times NOT to do it.
 
Originally posted by gn4u2c
They take your car get a lawyer! No way the can destroy your property .. I should pass a law next time the police sit on my proterty trying to give out tickets i will crush they cruiser. As I have asked the officers several times NOT to do it.


Fight fire with fire....


Call and warn everyone you know about the homemade spike strips you just layed down 4' into your driveway :D

What can they do about it? ;)
 
Well im never moving to CA, that law is total bull****, They can NOT legaly CRUSH anything that belongs to you. Get a lawyer and this could easily be fought saying you were in a hurry and had to pass someone. This law wont last. I mean hell, if that happend and i had mine i would make a run for it. And wouldnt stop. They are starting to close down tracks here.

This law is gonna cause trouble.

Heres the simple formula, i wish some dumbass politicion would read.

Racing Devloped Way back in time. They devloped race tracks, The racers went off the street, and to the tracks. Now their shutting down the tracks, guess what? The racers return to the streets.

theres no way to successfully contain the male testosterone its UN-possable. And for the stupid politics, heres the formula made simple.

C = Cars, Y = Young people, RT = Race Tracks, ST = Street Racing

C + Y - RT = ST
 
So what's next?????????
Do we cut someone's hand off so they can't steel anymore????
Do we cut a rapists **** off so he can't rape anymore????

This is what happens when we let people take away our rights it started with Guns and has gone down hill from thier.
 
Originally posted by jy211
what happens when the cars are financed? I don't think the banks are gonna want to lose their money?

What happens when a dope dealer gets busted and they pull a RICO statute on him. Its the banks loss. If I'm not mistaken they have tried something simular to this in other parts of the country with other crimes. For example if some John got busted for soliciating a hooker they confiscated his car or if someone was DUI for the 12th time they sold his car at auction to keep him from driving. One recent incident I can think of was the guy in Texas who kept junk cars in his backyard for parts to restore his musclecar collection and the city came by one afternoon and towed them all to the crusher under some vague city ordinence about junkers. The guy went all the way to the Supreme Court and won. I dont think it will go to far, just like the locals say, sensationalism by the politicians.
 
I like to think of myself as level headed (most of the time) and rsponsible, but if theres even a slight chance I won't get my car back I'm running. What the hell do I have to lose?

I wish lawmakers had the nuts to go after real criminals. I got a neighbor down the street selling drugs, everyone knows, including the police, but they are too scared to bust him. But they have no problem messing with me. My already minimal respect for the law diminishes daily. F' em.
 
Well, just hope if youre racing someone, youre faster, pray they go after the slower car.
Guess some people will have to make their cars handle too. Gotta be able to take turns and brake when youre trying to ditch them.
I would stop for a fine, or even going to court. But if I knew they were gonna take my car, I wouldnt even hesitate to try to get away. Its gonna create unsafe police chases and risk even more lives.
I respect the cops that do their job, in this case its someones political agenda theyre following. Somehow I dont think they would want to have to chase you down so they can crush your car. Its one thing to take the risk to chase someone who is high or drunk, or some type of immediate threat. If I were in their shoes I dont think I give chase for something like that.

All the more reason I think Im gonna stay put here.
 
If the mainstream had it's way we'd all be driving Camrys or some other boring, middle-of-the-road, politically correct POS.

Now, so far as crushing rice does, maybe it's not so bad...

:D
 
ya'll are not going to like what I have to say but I grew up street racing. I lost a friend from out running to police, we all used to do it but it was almost 20 years ago, I know that's no excuse I look back & think how stupid I was(wife says I still am). I understand what ya'll are saying about the tracks closing, but if you know what the reprocusions can be, why do it? I jump on my cars up to about 10-15 mph over the speed limit then let out. I don't get to go to the track alot due to my work but if I'm on the street & Ipull up beside somone I'll jump on it and see if I can take him, if I can't take him out of the hole chances are in a race either I will get my a$$ handed to me or I would have to chase him down. so it's not worth it. I know others out there feel the same but are scared to admit it due to peer presure. I think I have smartened up in my age.
 
so, some elected officials (read: politicians) made this law, correct?

Chalk up one more reason you'll never see me in a voting booth...
:rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by turbosam6
I like to think of myself as level headed (most of the time) and rsponsible, but if theres even a slight chance I won't get my car back I'm running. What the hell do I have to lose?

The money and time lost in the clink that would be associated with all of the other charges that they would rightly stick you with for evading the law and putting even more people at risk during a car chase.

I can certain understand the outrage about this as many applications of it would probably fall into the 'punishment does not fit the crime' category.

The stuff here about the this being bad because the state is taking your property seems a little out there to me. 'The state' takes your property in the form of money when you pay a fine for speeding, or illegally parking-- is this wrong on some fundamental level? 'The state' can put you in jail. Both are forms of taking things from people who break the law in the name of keeping things safe and civil.

Be specific, what part of the constitution do you think taking someone's car violates? Suppose the law only applied to those who killed someone while street racing, would it still be unconstitutional?

Scott
 
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