TE61 same as PT54???
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Ok, here's the beef.
TE-60 has the 60-1 60 trim comp wheel, T31 Stage 3 turbine wheel, and a realistic 575 fwhp rating.
PT51 has the 44s comp wheel, T350 Stage 5 turbine wheel 585 fwhp
PT52 has the 60-1 60 trim comp wheel, T350 Stage 5 turbine wheel 600 fwhp
PT53 has the 44s comp wheel, TO4 69 trim turbine wheel 610 fwhp
PT54 has the 60-1 60 trim comp wheel, TO4 69 trim turbine wheel 620 fwhp
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Here's the run down on the 61 series turbos that PTE has made.
6131 has the GT35R 61mm comp wheel, T31 stage 3 turbine wheel 620 fwhp
6152 has the GT35R 61mm comp wheel, T350 Stage 5 turbine wheel 630 fwhp
6169 has the GT35R 61mm comp wheel, TO4 69 trim turbine wheel 650 fwhp
6176 has the GT35R 61mm comp wheel, small shaft 76 P-trim turbine wheel 680 fwhp
http://www.precisionturbo.net/Web-Site-Pricing.pdf
The TE61 turbo was typically a Limit Engineering only produced turbo as Precision has never called their 61mm turbos TE series. If the 61 turbo you are looking at has one of these numbers engraved onto the compressor cover discharge, 6131E, 6152E, 6169E or 6176E it's a good chance it is a Precision built turbo.
Also, Jack Cotton sells a CPT61 turbo as well. I recommend you contact him for the wheel specs as I'm sure there are many versions available.
Hope this helps.
Patrick
TE-60 has the 60-1 60 trim comp wheel, T31 Stage 3 turbine wheel, and a realistic 575 fwhp rating.
PT51 has the 44s comp wheel, T350 Stage 5 turbine wheel 585 fwhp
PT52 has the 60-1 60 trim comp wheel, T350 Stage 5 turbine wheel 600 fwhp
PT53 has the 44s comp wheel, TO4 69 trim turbine wheel 610 fwhp
PT54 has the 60-1 60 trim comp wheel, TO4 69 trim turbine wheel 620 fwhp
Precision Turbo & Engine - Turbocharger, Intercooler, Fuel Injector, Performance Parts & more!
Here's the run down on the 61 series turbos that PTE has made.
6131 has the GT35R 61mm comp wheel, T31 stage 3 turbine wheel 620 fwhp
6152 has the GT35R 61mm comp wheel, T350 Stage 5 turbine wheel 630 fwhp
6169 has the GT35R 61mm comp wheel, TO4 69 trim turbine wheel 650 fwhp
6176 has the GT35R 61mm comp wheel, small shaft 76 P-trim turbine wheel 680 fwhp
http://www.precisionturbo.net/Web-Site-Pricing.pdf
The TE61 turbo was typically a Limit Engineering only produced turbo as Precision has never called their 61mm turbos TE series. If the 61 turbo you are looking at has one of these numbers engraved onto the compressor cover discharge, 6131E, 6152E, 6169E or 6176E it's a good chance it is a Precision built turbo.
Also, Jack Cotton sells a CPT61 turbo as well. I recommend you contact him for the wheel specs as I'm sure there are many versions available.
Hope this helps.
Patrick
I don't know yet. It's still 3 foot in the air.:biggrin:
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PT 54 likes a 3400 stall......ask me how I know.....
i was amazed that these turbos make so much front wheel hp...until i realised it was flywheel (1 word) aka bhp. lol. too bad, 'cause i want a turbo on my '99 regal. any of those turbos work with stock stall torque converters?
you don't mention at what boost pressure those bhp figures are (roughly)...or what they'd make at <10 psi (for the street).
why did you make the smallest turbo the same price as the latest, best turbos? it makes it hard to pick the small one!
you don't mention at what boost pressure those bhp figures are (roughly)...or what they'd make at <10 psi (for the street).
why did you make the smallest turbo the same price as the latest, best turbos? it makes it hard to pick the small one!
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I will try to answer your questions the best I can.
"any of those turbos work with stock stall torque converters?"
There are four Buick 3 bolt turbos that will work ok with a stock '86-'87 D5 converter in a Turbo Regal.
These are:
TA-49
TE-44
GT3255E
PT6131E (also available in dual ball bearing)
"you don't mention at what boost pressure those bhp figures are (roughly)...or what they'd make at <10 psi (for the street)."
All fwhp (bhp) figures are typically derived from Garretts compressor maps, as well as dyno testing results that customers would tell us. Whenever I quote flywheel hp numbers, this is the maximum hp the turbo will support and it is generally at or around 28-30psi. Because Garrett does not release compressor maps on older T series technology to the public, the only publicly available maps are those that Turbonetics publishes and I can tell you, some of their maps are just a little bit different than Garretts maps. And unfortunatley, no, I do not have any of the maps from my days of working at PTE. Ownership/management would not typically give that information out to the sales dept. It's very hard to guess what the flywheel hp would be, for only 10psi.
why did you make the smallest turbo the same price as the latest, best turbos? it makes it hard to pick the small one!
That is a question you would have to ask the owner of Precision. I have not worked for that company since Aug of last year. Regardless of that, when I was a sales tech, we never had any say so on pricing. That was always handled by the Sales Manager and the owner. They typically would try to keep the pricing the same across the board for each series of turbo. Buick small shaft 3 bolt, Buick T4 race series, T3/T4s, Sport Compact Mitsubishis, T4 race series, T5 race series. It's when you got into the GT series (both journal bearing and dual ball bearing) where the price differences were from one extreme to the next.
Hope this helps clear it up a little.
Patrick
I will try to answer your questions the best I can.
"any of those turbos work with stock stall torque converters?"
There are four Buick 3 bolt turbos that will work ok with a stock '86-'87 D5 converter in a Turbo Regal.
These are:
TA-49
TE-44
GT3255E
PT6131E (also available in dual ball bearing)
"you don't mention at what boost pressure those bhp figures are (roughly)...or what they'd make at <10 psi (for the street)."
All fwhp (bhp) figures are typically derived from Garretts compressor maps, as well as dyno testing results that customers would tell us. Whenever I quote flywheel hp numbers, this is the maximum hp the turbo will support and it is generally at or around 28-30psi. Because Garrett does not release compressor maps on older T series technology to the public, the only publicly available maps are those that Turbonetics publishes and I can tell you, some of their maps are just a little bit different than Garretts maps. And unfortunatley, no, I do not have any of the maps from my days of working at PTE. Ownership/management would not typically give that information out to the sales dept. It's very hard to guess what the flywheel hp would be, for only 10psi.
why did you make the smallest turbo the same price as the latest, best turbos? it makes it hard to pick the small one!
That is a question you would have to ask the owner of Precision. I have not worked for that company since Aug of last year. Regardless of that, when I was a sales tech, we never had any say so on pricing. That was always handled by the Sales Manager and the owner. They typically would try to keep the pricing the same across the board for each series of turbo. Buick small shaft 3 bolt, Buick T4 race series, T3/T4s, Sport Compact Mitsubishis, T4 race series, T5 race series. It's when you got into the GT series (both journal bearing and dual ball bearing) where the price differences were from one extreme to the next.
Hope this helps clear it up a little.
Patrick
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