teenage woes

[BLACK6PACK]

Looks like some people make a good case for abortion in this thread! If their mom had had an abortion, we wouldn't have to listen to the mindless drivel!

I'm definately pro choice, but I've had several friends that got pregnant at a young age, and also others that waited until their early 20's and were married. It really doesn't seem to matter. Some that got pregnant in their teens, worked very hard and are doing well for themselves. Others that got married, had kids, got divorced and are now struggling. Its all about the person and how hard they are willing to work to do well.

 

[cwelk87gn]

Originally posted by wiked87gn
just because my opinions are straight to the point, and harsh at times does not meat they dont get the point accros, by the responses i got on this post it means that i got some S*** stirred up, i dont see any of you Pro choice Mofos telling shawnz the you will paid the hospital bills,diapers, clothes, HS, food, shelter, college tuition and god knows what else this kid will need during his life time, Comon Pu***** step up to the plate if you are so pro-life, as far as my hell hole comment i was not refering to california i was refering to the whole Planet earth You morons, obviously your minds are too small to see the whole picture.. u my friends are the cause why our taxes are going through the roof.. kids having kids is a huge problem in this country, start by education ur kids about Birth control so that in the near future you wont have to make a decition that will impact a teenagers life for the rest of her life, education starts with the parents at home and not at the abortion clinic or the hospital having a baby.. this thread reminds me of the one that i posted about putting a Toyota Supra motor Into a Grand National. hahahahaha.

If you read my original response to this post you will notice that I DID offer to pay all of his daughters bills and adopt the baby if she didn't want it, and trust me, I can step up to the plate.

 

[84GNPILE]

Shawnz- Wondering how strong the relationship is between your daughter and her boyfriend?Do you think they are gonna make it? Are his parents willing to help out as well, or are they not gonna be a part of it at all? I think these factors could/should play a big part in the overall decision she will make.All of you need to get together and talk this out.Maybe your family first, but then you need to talk to them too to see how they feel about this.Talk about awkward moments,eh?

There is a bigger picture here that can have a positive or negative effect on your overall decision.Best of Luck to you and yours.

 

[BlownZ]

Originally posted by wiked87gn
AMEN and thank you for seeing it my way..

NOT!!! u my friend are obviously narrow minded and ur brain is probably the size of an ant...

PS i am done with this thread and making my point, if i offended some of you for trying to give my advice and my opinions were to strong for you to take, go crawl back under your rock and never come out you will do us all some good.

The truly sad thing is...most people in this thread are not cracking on him for his stance on abortion or being Pro-Life or Pro-Choice but his absolutel mind numbing stupidity doesn't allow him to see that. Wow. I can't even imagine.....wow.

 

[artrenee10]

Hard Choice

Im a school teacher, (seventh grade yes I know, I know) and I see first hand the results of children being born that don't have a stable family behind them....(90 percent of the time dads aren't in their lives)..Its truly devastating and unfortunate and to know that these are going to be the people that might be taking care of all of us someday in our old ages and buying our diapers LOL...

ShawnZ, this could fall both ways, your daughter could have an abortion and likely go on about her life....in my own opinion the easy way out....

Or she could accept responsibility for laying down and taking care what she made when she got back up....for all the technology and contraception there is out there is really no excuse at this point.

At 19 I would leave the decision up to her, and it is truly HER own decision....but let her know that either way this turns out her life will be changed after this, and she will change as well, maybe for better, maybe for worse..who knows.

There are two roads here, neither of them are easy....but leave it to her and support her in whatever case she makes...at 19 she's about to learn a very HARD lesson in life.

Good Luck

Steve Chambers

 

[2quiktocare]

The thing is with out of wedlock pregnancy you only have two real choices. Abort or have the baby. I am pro life, but fully understand that it is a personal choice not political issue as many have made it. There are ups and downs on both sides of the argument.
If she aborts, you as grandparents will live with that knowledge that your first grandchild was killed without you ever having known them. She will have to live with the fact that she made that decision and will always have that memory in her mind. If she has the baby, she either gets married and make what may well be another bad choice, adopt the baby out which will make some couple very happy, or keep the baby and live with the consequences of her actions. That will mean both she and you will have a change in your lives as well. That may or may not be a good thing.
I would say I was lucky with my daughter, but I think it was more of how I warned her of every possible move a guy would make on her and what the situation would be if she did get PG.
I have compassion for what you are going thru either way. Your family needs to sit down and go thru all the possible pros and cons of every move and then talk to the boys family. Since your daughter is the one that has changed her life forever, her thoughts will outweigh whatever the boy’s family will want to do.
All I can say as to what not to do is to rush into a marriage and possibly cause further damage to an already bad situation.
Good luck and make sure you stand with her thru this, it will mean more to her than either of you will realize at this moment.

 

[NitrousMan]

Re: freedom of choice.

Originally posted by wiked87gn
if she had that baby her life will completely change forever, she may not even make it through college, she is wayy to damn young to have a baby, did you not tell her about contraception, in my opinion, she should terminate the preagnancy in the long run she will be happy she did, with the way the economy is and the cost of living it is not worth bringing a baby into this world, unless of course the grandparents take care of it, which mean (you buddy).. think carefully and i hope she does the right thing.

Don't listen to this clown, if she were to have an abortion not only is it a terrible process it would phsycologically mess up your daughter for LIFE. Believe me when I say this because I have a close family member that did this and 20 years later she still has trouble dealing with it. She needs to have the baby and then decide at that point if she wants to give it up for adoption. I think once you see your grandchild you're not going to want her to give the child up. She shouldn't feel that she needs to marry this guy either because if he's not the right spouse for her it will not work out and that not what you want. A friend of mine just went through this and his 19 year old daughter decided to have the baby and now my buddy says it was the best thing that could have happened his family. I hope you help her make the right decision to keep the baby.

 

[Whut]

I would suggest giving the child up for adoption if your not ready to provide for your grand child. I just look at how the women around me have children and say they cant give it up. Then they get upset that they cant do things like work or school or going out with friends. It just shows me that they really arent ready to be a mother which burdens the rest of the family.

This is especially true if the father doesnt want anything to do with it. I dont understand how a woman can feel anything for a deadbeat father when they are struggling so much while the father continues on like nothing happens. I know women that wont get chil support because they dont want to piss off the father, stupidest reason ever. Its a mutual responsibility and the father should be doing his part without getting upset.

Adoption is a far better choice (seeing as she is 4 months along) and will not hurt her physically in the long run.

If she chooses to give the child up PLEASE make her stick to it. Dont let her see any pictures of the unborn child and have them put a sheet up when she delivers the child so she can not see it. Stick with her and she should be able to move on a few months after giving the child up.

This may sound like stupid advice to some but I have seen far to many women throw their life in the ****ter and provide nothing close to what a child needs because they "felt" like it was the right thing to do.

Im sorry but giving a kid a hard life with little to nothing and not being able to provide for that kid is not the right thing to do. It will be a hard decision but in the long run, that kid will have a much better and easier life with an adopted family.

 

[wiked87gn]

Re: Re: freedom of choice.

Originally posted by NitrousMan
Don't listen to this clown, if she were to have an abortion not only is it a terrible process it would phsycologically mess up your daughter for LIFE. Believe me when I say this because I have a close family member that did this and 20 years later she still has trouble dealing with it. She needs to have the baby and then decide at that point if she wants to give it up for adoption. I think once you see your grandchild you're not going to want her to give the child up. She shouldn't feel that she needs to marry this guy either because if he's not the right spouse for her it will not work out and that not what you want. A friend of mine just went through this and his 19 year old daughter decided to have the baby and now my buddy says it was the best thing that could have happened his family. I hope you help her make the right decision to keep the baby.

So i am a clown now for giving my opinion, the joke is on you for being so Narrow minded. A**H***.

 

[BlownZ]

Not JUST a clown....a STUPID clown. Get it straight.

 

[NitrousMan]

Re: Re: Re: freedom of choice.

Originally posted by wiked87gn
So i am a clown now for giving my opinion, the joke is on you for being so Narrow minded. A**H***.

Hey knob, I thought you were doing us a favor and not replying to this thread anymore? I think your mommy is calling you.

 

[wiked87gn]

Re: Re: Re: Re: freedom of choice.

Originally posted by NitrousMan
Hey knob, I thought you were doing us a favor and not replying to this thread anymore? I think your mommy is calling you.

What can i say i am a sucker for punishment, hurt me more baby.. btw u got my feeling hurt..

PS (if you read correct it says feeling not feelings) i only got one and you all know there its located so feel free to hurt it anytime)

 

[TurboJunky]

Nobody is posting what the FATHER feels. What's his take on the whole deal? Sure, legally the mother can decide wholly on her own to abort or give birth and keep it. This involves him as much as your daughter.

Those of you insulting wiked87gn haven't given any reasons for attacking him and honestly this isn't the place. From what I've read it's simply because you personallly disagree with him. Hardly a reason to resort to insults (he didn't start them first, go back and read the thread). Granted, he's very pointed and direct but appreared to give NON-EMOTIONAL choices for this solicited question. Many in here are taking his advice PERSONALLY. What you feel about children/adoption/abortion doesn't mean everyone FEELS the same way. Some people feel kids are gifts from God, some feel they're hinderences to a successful lifestyle. Just because YOU don't agree with it doesn't mean it's wrong and worth attacking.

My $.02 with the flame suite on....