Thoughts on the 2005 Mustang?

[Raven]

So what do you guys think about the new GT that's coming out (300hp) and the Cobra that's around the corner in '06?

I really like what Ford did with the retro look. Too bad GM didn't pay the same respect to the GTO.

Anyhow, I really am impressed with all I've seen of the '05 Mustang. Looks to be a great car. Hopefully, GM will do something similar with the Camaro/Firebird IF we ever see those models again.

Your thoughts on the 2005 Mustang?

 

[Westside500]

Well, I dislike all the new Mustangs. I am not a fan of overhead cam engines. They do not make any torque or power. The car might have 300 horse, but still does not have the torque it needs to go fast. The retro look looks okay, but I still love the Fox body Mustangs( I had 3 of them) . One of the reasons I sold my stangs is because of the "crowd" that they are penned with. Pimple faced teenage kids that know it all or don't have a clue about the car. Ford is taking advantage of the downtime GM has without production of the F bodies... they will bring the car back in 07 and will be sweet! Mustang's of today are too bulky and heavy and have zero resale value. The Cobra is decent, but you have to ask yourself a question.... should I buy a $35,000 car with a blower that run low 13's and for 4 grand more you might run high 11's at the track with slicks...but fearing you won't break that piece of **** irs rear suspension.. so you have 40 grand in your car and it runs 11.80 or so... is it worth it? I think not..The worst thing Ford did to the Mustang is ditch the 302 and put that boat anchor motor 4.6 turd..

 

[Raven]

Good points there but there are some inaccuracies.

The '03/'04 Cobras can be modded VERY cheaply to run 11's - I know; my son has one. With a chip, pulley, DR's, and exhaust he's in the mid/high 11's already and running nearly 120 mph. All for less than $1000 worth of mods.

He's only got a little over $32k in the whole package - not bad for a new car that runs 11's and is fully streetable and totally reliable. Like it or not, the Cobras are killer cars and they're not being driven only by 'pimply faced' teenagers. Far from it - they're being driven by CAR-guys of a lot different ages who know how to tune.

As far as the IRS goes, the problems they had with the earlier ones has been resolved with the '03's and '04's. I've witnessed run after run at the track with hard launches on cars of varying horsepower (some were 10 second Cobras) and the cars flat out go. No wheel hop, no broken half shafts - they simply hook and go.

Don't take an '03 or an '04 Cobra lightly. And never, EVER think that the latest versions of the 4.6 DOHC motor is a boat anchor - it's far, far from it. Run a Terminator Cobra that's been chipped/pullied/and tuned with a TR that runs slower than 11's and you'll think it's YOUR car that's tied to an anchor.

And that my friend is the cold, hard truth.

 

[no-nos]

ford did it right, that car looks awesome, if it's around the $25k i will consider getting one the car looks awesome
too bad buick does'nt make a retro gn, that would fly off the showrooms like, water during a hurricane.

 

[no-nos]

Originally posted by Raven
Good points there but there are some inaccuracies.

The '03/'04 Cobras can be modded VERY cheaply to run 11's - I know; my son has one. With a chip, pulley, DR's, and exhaust he's in the mid/high 11's already and running nearly 120 mph. All for less than $1000 worth of mods.

what does the cobra run stock? i tried looking it up my search , i found no 1/4 mile times


He's only got a little over $32k in the whole package - not bad for a new car that runs 11's and is fully streetable and totally reliable.


that is a good price, cause motortrend has cost of ownership at over $51k ( thats for the 04 nodel)


As far as the IRS goes, the problems they had with the earlier ones has been resolved with the '03's and '04's. I've witnessed run after run at the track with hard launches on cars of varying horsepower (some were 10 second Cobras) and the cars flat out go. No wheel hop, no broken half shafts - they simply hook and go.



Don't take an '03 or an '04 Cobra lightly. And never, EVER think that the latest versions of the 4.6 DOHC motor is a boat anchor - it's far, far from it. Run a Terminator Cobra that's been chipped/pullied/and tuned with a TR that runs slower than 11's and you'll think it's YOUR car that's tied to an anchor.

And that my friend is the cold, hard truth.

response: cobra's i don't like, $36k for 11s? i'll stick with my $ 7k gn with $4k and run 11s, but that me. if your a mustang guy than you gotta have it, i will say this i do plan on seriously looking into the new retro 05? mustang it suppose to have 300hp for around $25kthat car just looks awesome and 300hp is enough to kill alot of car out there.

 

[Westside500]

Originally posted by Raven
Good points there but there are some inaccuracies.

The '03/'04 Cobras can be modded VERY cheaply to run 11's - I know; my son has one. With a chip, pulley, DR's, and exhaust he's in the mid/high 11's already and running nearly 120 mph. All for less than $1000 worth of mods.

He's only got a little over $32k in the whole package - not bad for a new car that runs 11's and is fully streetable and totally reliable. Like it or not, the Cobras are killer cars and they're not being driven only by 'pimply faced' teenagers. Far from it - they're being driven by CAR-guys of a lot different ages who know how to tune.

As far as the IRS goes, the problems they had with the earlier ones has been resolved with the '03's and '04's. I've witnessed run after run at the track with hard launches on cars of varying horsepower (some were 10 second Cobras) and the cars flat out go. No wheel hop, no broken half shafts - they simply hook and go.

Don't take an '03 or an '04 Cobra lightly. And never, EVER think that the latest versions of the 4.6 DOHC motor is a boat anchor - it's far, far from it. Run a Terminator Cobra that's been chipped/pullied/and tuned with a TR that runs slower than 11's and you'll think it's YOUR car that's tied to an anchor.

And that my friend is the cold, hard truth.

$32 grand and high 11's? That my friend is a joke.. I had my 91 lx with the same old 302 stock bottom end.. heads cam gear car running low 11's on pump gas. A hell of alot less than $32 grand I have worked on these cars and they are useless... its pretty sad when you can have a little 6 shooter in a "old g body" for under 10 grand and spank your 32,000 Muffstain.... half shafts will break. trust me why are all the Cobra goons going to live axle? price per power is where its at.. you don't need to spend all that money to go fast if you know what you are doing. And that my friend is the cold, hard truth.

 

[FlyinGN]

I got to sit in a yellow GT manual trans yesterday and *LOVED* it.. Absolutly beautiful. I would LOVE to buy one. Ford is gonna hit a home run here guys,. Trust me..

 

[87buick3825]

Originally posted by FlyinGN
I got to sit in a yellow GT manual trans yesterday and *LOVED* it.. Absolutly beautiful. I would LOVE to buy one. Ford is gonna hit a home run here guys,. Trust me..

Totally agree !!!! Our Buicks are getting old Wear an tear are takin it's toll . It would be nice to have a "new" car again

RD

 

[Marc87GN]

Wow, I can't believe the ignorance in some of these statements, but I guess it's easy if you never owned or built a 4.6. I own a GN and so far it's been less than stellar, but I wouldn't claim to be an expert or just blurt out statemens about its shortcomings.


Anyway, the Cobra offers so much for it's value. Much more than any other car for 32-35K. Forget the fact that it comes with Fully Forged pistons, Manley H-Beam Rods, Forged Steel crank, aluminum block with 6 bolt mains, heads when ported flow well over 300 cfm, bulletproof 6 speed, independent rear, and can run 11s @ 120+ mph without breaking parts or a sweat.

I love my GN, but to say you can run 11s on race gas with slicks and lower trapspeed is not the same as having one that can pass 50 state emissions, handle and run that all year long on pump gas and street tires.

The GN had it's day, lets not compare car costs 16-17 years apart because it's stupid. I'm sure everyone is making the same salary that they were 17 years ago provided you were old enough to be working.

 

[XLR8]

Ford and Chrysler are leaving GM in the dust. The ONLY car that is made by GM that I would consider is the 'Vette - and I'm not yet sure of the new body style. The new Mustang looks good and is a good performance value for the money. The new Cobra, I think, will be a great car that could be untouchable performance wise for the price. $35,000 seems like a lot of money, but when compared to a GTO at the same price, it seems cheap. Ford will probably sell 1,000,000 of the new mustangs and GM will scrap the GTO in 2 years because nobody is buying them - just like nobody was buying the the F-bodys.

 

[Welby]

Was driving down the highway about a month ago, and was passing a truck that had a new slate blue one on it. Paced the truck for about 2 minutes straight, staring at it. Most concept cars get hacked up and more boring when they hit the streets, but I have to admit, it looked awesome.

But I'd wait 5 years, and buy a low mileage '05 for $12,000

 

[bishir]

I'm waiting for the Shelby version. Some folks don't seem to understand that the Cobra is a bargain. You won't find any other new car in that price range that will keep up with it.

 

[Raven]

I love my GN but-

Hey, lets get real here. $32k for an 11 second NEW car is an incredible bargain. If we want to play the "my car is cheaper" game, I'm not in for that. Of course a 17+ year old TR is GOING TO BE CHEAPER. But cheaper does NOT make it better - only more affordable. I know - I've got a GN.

Actually, I've had 3 GN's and a GNX - they are truly awesome cars. But if you get a chance to drive a stock '03 or '04 Cobra - let alone one that's been tuned and modded for 11's - I guarantee you that you will have a HUGE grin on your face. Take it out on the twisties and actually drive it versus just at the dragstrip where all you do is point the car and you'll REALLY appreciate its abilities.

I'm not taking a thing away from the Buicks here, just acknowledging that there are OTHER great cars out there just as fast. And the 2005 Mustang is a beautiful car with a lot of potential.

We can also argue IRS/live axle any day of the week but each has it's place and the IRS is not a glass jaw anymore like the F-Bodies rear LIVE axle was if you were going to run 11's.

We could also argue Ford/Buick, supercharged/Turbo'd, and about any other topic that there are differing views on but it doesn't matter - it's all just opinions. I don't want this thread to turn into a Cobra bash - I just would like to know how many of you like or dislike the new 2005 Mustang and why.

Put me down for an "I love it" vote.

 

[nero]

I'm with ya Raven! I prefer old cars, but there are some new cars out there that I'm digging like the retro 'stang, the cobras are nice too, the 300C and, dare I say it, the STi... but when it's all said and done: I'd take the TR anyday!

 

[87We4ster]

The new stang is a beautiful car, I'm waiting for next years goat, 400hp plus some changes in appearance...Gotta stick with GM!

 

[bishir]

Speaking of the 300c the SRT version is coming out and it will have a 6.1 Hemi with 425 NA Horsepower.

 

[strikeeagle]

Can't wait to see the 2005 Mustang and 2005 GTO (especially if they make a Judge) up close. I don't care for the styling of the Chrysler stuff, but that's just me - if y'all like it, it's cool.

You can't argue with the performance of the new Cobras, but there are a lot of drawbacks - ancient platform, no room, killer insurance payments, me too.

I love my GN, but I have to admit, I always keep my eyes open for something new to come along and knock my socks off. Trouble is, my GN is paid for.

Saw an LX notch at the drags a couple of weeks ago. Titanium. Big centrifugal blower. Cage. The car was way beyond pristine. PERFECT! Ran mid 10's. Now that I would have traded heads up for...

 

[nero]

Originally posted by bishir
Speaking of the 300c the SRT version is coming out and it will have a 6.1 Hemi with 425 NA Horsepower.

ouch!

 

[JDSfastGN]

i didn't read the replys, but just wanted to say that the new mustang is ugly, very ugly, it looks wrong from almost all the angles, the back is the main problem, it just looks wrong and out of place. the current body style looks much better, especially the machs, and 03-04 cobras which with just a few changes from the GTs, turned into one of the most menacing cars on the road

 

[TurboJunky]

Originally posted by 87buick3825
Totally agree !!!! Our Buicks are getting old Wear an tear are takin it's toll . It would be nice to have a "new" car again

RD

I may sell mine if the price is right. It still has the "new car" smell inside .