Well the verdict is in heres the destruction

[TurboJim]

Re: HOLY $HIT DUDE!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Mease Performance
DAMN I've NEVER seen a head that bad?????????? HOLY COW!!!!!

Better get the 1/4" dia filler rod out for that one!!!!!

Keith

While I know you're kidding here, how would you heat the thing to whatever 550* or whatever it is to weld? Throw the whole thing in an oven? Or use a torch on the area?

I only ask because I just welded some aluminum last week (my first time with a TIG *and* aluminum) and it was a royal whore getting the metal preheated so it would flow 1/2 way decent. I was welding a trailer frame which was only like 3/16 thick.... not a head which I am sure dissapates heat MUCH more than what I was doing....

I am asking only to learn, not critique.....

TIA

 

[Mease Performance]

Re: Re: HOLY $HIT DUDE!!!!!!!

Originally posted by TurboJim
Keith

While I know you're kidding here, how would you heat the thing to whatever 550* or whatever it is to weld? Throw the whole thing in an oven? Or use a torch on the area?

I only ask because I just welded some aluminum last week (my first time with a TIG *and* aluminum) and it was a royal whore getting the metal preheated so it would flow 1/2 way decent. I was welding a trailer frame which was only like 3/16 thick.... not a head which I am sure dissapates heat MUCH more than what I was doing....

I am asking only to learn, not critique.....

TIA

Jim none taken personally, if the area will not flow with preheating with the torch (we would use large I mean LARGE 1/4" or 3/16" tungsten and the big liquid cooled torch for this repair) our unit will produce over 400 AMPS to the material at 60% duty cycle... that is plenty enough to heat the material and surrounding area.....quickly and efficiently, ottos head would most likely need seats and guides in that cylinder, and a bushing for the head bolt hole and heli coil for the spark plug hole, since the material would warp a good amount with the addition of heat and new material... An oven can be used to speed up the process, and keep the material truer (more even) a torch (acetylene) is too inconsistent

anything can be fixed, its worth a try unless someone has another used head (check out RPE)

 

[Otto J]

Originally posted by Russ Merritt
Tell me that wasn't makin noise across the finish line! You better go see if the front tire's still there. That looks like the space shuttle o-ring disaster, only in Otto land! Sorry to see that man!

Didnt make it to the finishline under full throttle, just idled my way back to the truck
Otto

 

[Otto J]

Re: ????

Originally posted by Chuck Leeper
FAST system?? Did you look at the data logs yet??
Dual in tank pumps?
What do the other cylinders look like??

If you have a FAST log, I'l like to see it, if I may.
Any pics of other cylinders?

Ya ill get the log out of my laptop and send it to you, i havent even looked at it yet. as far as the other cylinders they all looked fine, maybe a bit fat if anything.
Otto

 

[Otto J]

Re: Re: Re: HOLY $HIT DUDE!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Mease Performance
Jim none taken personally, if the area will not flow with preheating with the torch (we would use large I mean LARGE 1/4" or 3/16" tungsten and the big liquid cooled torch for this repair) our unit will produce over 400 AMPS to the material at 60% duty cycle... that is plenty enough to heat the material and surrounding area.....quickly and efficiently, ottos head would most likely need seats and guides in that cylinder, and a bushing for the head bolt hole and heli coil for the spark plug hole, since the material would warp a good amount with the addition of heat and new material... An oven can be used to speed up the process, and keep the material truer (more even) a torch (acetylene) is too inconsistent

anything can be fixed, its worth a try unless someone has another used head (check out RPE)

They need to be converted to 14 bolt now anyway, say i may just buy a new bare 14 bolt casting instead of fixing this one.
Otto

 

[Chuck Leeper]

Re: Re: ????

Originally posted by KLHAMMETT
Ya ill get the log out of my laptop and send it to you, i havent even looked at it yet. as far as the other cylinders they all looked fine, maybe a bit fat if anything.
Otto

I'm betting the farm, that you didn't run out of fuel. The gasket blew because the head lifted, then it was downhill from there.
Had it been a no fuel deal, there would have been more damage in other cylinders .
I would also take a look at the injectors.. could have had one go away on that cyl??
I would like to see the log anyhow!
TIA,

 

[Mease Performance]

Re: Re: Re: ????

Originally posted by Chuck Leeper
I'm betting the farm, that you didn't run out of fuel. The gasket blew because the head lifted, then it was downhill from there.
Had it been a no fuel deal, there would have been more damage in other cylinders .
I would also take a look at the injectors.. could have had one go away on that cyl??
I would like to see the log anyhow!
TIA,

True would that be!!! see sometimes we should listen to our elders