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Jack, the Sony's are great and have I think like 5 different veiwing modes so you can play any format and have it look good. My brother bought the 42" wega wide screen. You can look at the picture from the side and never loose any clarity in the picture. You can stretch a normal broadcast, but your son is right, it will look stretched. Awesome units and be prepared to take a week long class to learn everything it will do though.. j/k


Mark
 
I've had my 65' hitachi for awhile now and its on stretch mode all the time. It looks good. I sit about 12-13 feet away from it and the picture is great over antenna and dish network. I was worried a non dvd or hdtv signal would suck on a picture that big but it looks awesome. Also when I rent DVD's I usually end up renting the full screen ones instead of the widescreen. The full screen fills up the screen in 16:9 mode and looks great where as the widescreen ones don't fill up the screen and leave black bars on the top and bottom.
 
And the instruction book that comes with these new T.V.'s is thicker than a phone book.

Harken back to yesteryear, (Lone Ranger music playing in the background) when all we did was......

Turn on the T.V. and wait 30 seconds for the tubes to warm up. While the tubes are warming up you set up your T.V. tray then put your supper down on it while you got comfortable on the couch. All family members lined up on the couch with their trays in front of them.

The T.V. came alive with brilliant black and white. Oops, it was still 5 minutes to 5 P.M. so we would just see a test pattern. No use GETTING UP ( no remote ) and changing channels....there's only one channel.

At 5 P.M. on the dot a show would start....but first the live commercial. Sometimes they would screw up in the commercial....nothing they could do since it was live, just carry on.

Then of course those who were rich could afford a color T.V. Well the T.V. wasn't really color, they just bought a large colored glass screen thingy that they'd put in front of their black and white T.V. and it would give a colored hue to whatever b & w show was on.

We knew by memory which shows came on which nights and at which time. Never needed a guide.

And were the old T.V.'s better??

HELL NO, they were crap. I prefer my bigscreen with it's complicated operations and encyclopoedic instructions. :D
 
Originally posted by turbot2496
I've had my 65' hitachi for awhile now and its on stretch mode all the time. It looks good. I sit about 12-13 feet away from it and the picture is great over antenna and dish network. I was worried a non dvd or hdtv signal would suck on a picture that big but it looks awesome. Also when I rent DVD's I usually end up renting the full screen ones instead of the widescreen. The full screen fills up the screen in 16:9 mode and looks great where as the widescreen ones don't fill up the screen and leave black bars on the top and bottom.


Fullscreen DVDs won't fill up a 16:9 tv unless you stretch it. As for widescreen movies, the aspect ratio can differ so the black bars are different sizes on different movies. Some don't have them at all. The ones that do have them because they use the original ratio of the movie i.e the theater screen ratio, which is wider than 16:9.
 
I have a question.

From watching in "normal" mode on a widescreen, will it burn the image in the screen over time? So when you do watch in stretch mode you will be able to see the outer edges?

I have heard the new DLPs are good about not doing this.

Ross
 
Well Ben, I would have thought that too, but on the hitachi it must stretch it automatically or something in 16:9 as well as expanded 4:3. You can set it on 16:9 with a full screen DVD and it looks great and fills the screen. You would think it would look screwed up. Looks good in 4:3 expanded too. Weird. Most of the wide screen DVDS I've seen on it look good but have big black bars on the top and bottom. I'd rather have the picture fill the screen. I had another friend who came over and saw it after claiming the full screen movies would have to look like crap stretched and he was impressed after I showed him a comparison on the set. They have the stretch stuff down pretty good.

Yeah watching in normal mode is supposed to burn in but you have to watch quite a bit. Any black bars will burn in if you leave them on long enough(hours and hours). Turning the contrast down helps this.
 
If that TV is a standard CRT gun rear projection deal, I highly suggest you pay a pro to come realign the guns after it is installed, and also use curtains and meters to properly set black levels, color temperature, etc. It is typically an UNBELIEVEABLE difference compared to "as delivered." Shouldn't cost you more than $150-200.
 
We got a pioneer elite...it is nice... really nice(rear projection). Just like everyone else said you will just have the empty black spot on the sides when watching the normal" home" aspect ratio. No problems what so ever, no fade or color burn had it about 3 years now.

and did I mention it's gloss black:cool:

Most of the wide screen DVDS I've seen on it look good but have big black bars on the top and bottom. I'd rather have the picture fill the screen.
on mine you have to change the setting so it knows your playing widescreen other wise it plays it like a normal tv would.
 
My favorite subject :D

I am a huge fan of Sony..I like their electronics and love their tubes, I have WEGA set and it's awesome. When looking for my bigscreen I just assumed, "Get a Sony" When comparing their rear proj. sets to others, well..I ended up with a Mitsu. I absolutely love it. One problem for me..since it was an earlier HD model, 3yrs old now, It's only got on HD input. So I have my HD SAT/OTA receiver on it. Now I bought Xbox and the HD kit, and I have no where to plug it into :(

Looks like it's time for a new receiver for me..again!!

One thing to all you RPTV owners...I spent the money and had the set calibrated by a professional...no, not the Sears/Best Buy/Tweeter repair rep that doesn't know sqat...a real professional that does this stuff for a living. Spent 5-6 hrs calibrating it, touching up the geometry of the screen, setting the black levels for all of the sets inputs..all I can say is that if you spend $3k on a set and DON"T have this done, you may as well just throw out your money. Made a Huge dif... Yea, you can get it "OK" doing it yourself with the Avia disk or the other Home Theatre setup disc..but you don't have the tools to do it 100% to NTSC Spec, those cost a lot. Light meter, hooks to a laptop, reads the levels from the sets screens etc..prettty neat. Cost me $600, but money well spent IMO. If my wife actually noticed a difference, I know it's not smoke and mirrors :)
 
Originally posted by jmidolo
Looks like it's time for a new receiver for me..again!!

I'm thinking of the same thing, but you gotta drop well over $1k right now to get one that switches more than 2 component video sources. If you find one that does more for less post it here! I have the DVD player and the digital cable HDTV box taking up both component video inputs on my Sony. I, too, have PS2 with the HDTV kit but nowhere to plug it in. Getting a receiver that switches 2 HDTV sources would solve the problem, but I'd be tapped out again.

On the DVD screen size thing - the DVD player has a lot to do with it. I posted similar questions when I first got my Sony TV. Turns out I needed to replace my DVD player. I got a Sony that allows you to set default audio and video preferences that get applied regardless of what the actual DVD options are. Everything I put in the DVD player automatically uses the entire screen now.

Jim
 
Originally posted by turbojimmy
I'm thinking of the same thing, but you gotta drop well over $1k right now to get one that switches more than 2 component
Jim

Yea, only 2 here, but cheap...

Sony DE995
 
Hrm...that got me thinking..I've got a Sony 900 series receiver...I never even checked the comp' input/outputs on it. It's 3 yrs old by now, just assumed it didn't have them, but it may! LOL
 
Originally posted by jmidolo
Yea, only 2 here, but cheap...

Sony DE995

Yeah, I was looking at that, too. I pre-wired my basement for 7.1 so I was looking to make the jump to a 7.1 receiver anyway. Just wish it had more component video inputs.

Jim
 
Has anyone checked out the second generation Sony LCD projection sets yet? Do the LCD style still need calibration, or is that just for the CRTs? Any downsides to the LCD other than price?

Tyvm,
Tom
 
Originally posted by tminer
Has anyone checked out the second generation Sony LCD projection sets yet? Do the LCD style still need calibration, or is that just for the CRTs? Any downsides to the LCD other than price?

Tyvm,
Tom

Price? Typically LCD is cheaper. Another drawback of an LCD compared to a CRT is "Ghosting." An LCD has a response time for color/image changes; the old stuff was 50ms and above, some of the new stuff is down to the 15-20ms range. What you will see is "trailers" of fast moving objects especially on older equipment with the slower response times. A CRT gun doesn't suffer from this problem. That is why a 9" front CRT projector from Runco will run you $30,000 while you can get a LCD or DLP projector for $1-5K. In the past, LCD/DLP projectors have offered nowhere near the contrast or brighness of a CRT projector, but in recent years they have improved dramatically.

Some people are more tolerant of it than others; your best bet is to go watch one and find out. Personally, it drives me nuts, which is why I don't have an LCD monitor at my computer. I tried one and developed headaches/eyestrain when playing games or watching videos. Even the new 16ms screens get to me, but it takes longer.
 
I'm with you guys, love the home theater stuff. My GN could have been alot faster but this is fun stuff also. I don't see many Toshiba fans here but I am a big one. Here is my H/T site
turbod
 
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