I have the ATR down and up pipes............the downpipe actually comes with a built in racepipe that you can trim to fit your exhaust(so you can eliminate your catalitic convertor, if ya want) or they also give ya a adapter to hook it right up to the cat........just have to trim cut it to the right length. I want to say the price of the downpipe is about $130 and the up pipe(comes with a copper gasket and bolts) is about $105.....shipped! The prices went up, I think they are working on getting a new catalog printed. Very awesome products.........I like mine and they are well worth the money. Expessially when you see your stock downpipe outside the car.....what a piece of ****!! Granted you could wait months on end to get a 3in downpipe from _ _ _ _ _ , but it will also cost ya lots of money.
Later Nick