best turbo upgrade on a budget?

[Mr.Spool]

corsair231,got to get some stickies and drop that 60ft,raise the target boost level with alky and a ttchip.i am a firm believer in a good converter and as soon as funds are available i would highly recommend that mod.

 

[scojack_2001]

i ran and am still using practically the same setup as you. except Im using a te-60, and a hr bar setup in the rear end. my best was 11.49 @ 119 . I thing the car spools pretty good with the stock converter and i drive it daily. I used a ta 49 before making the swap ,and the car pull was night and day.big difference i found between the two turbos, Id suggest trying 1 if you can find a used 1, thats what i did and im happy with it for now till the funds come up for the 10's

Thats pretty much where Id like to be for now, right at the line for a bar. My car has instant boost on the street, with the stock turbo and convertor. Its probably the 24° of timing in the TT alchy chip. My buddy has what is believed to be a TE60, but Im not sure how to identify it.

Not to hijack but jamier, are you running the stock d-5 and 42.5's with a te-60? If you are check my sig for mods and compare with yours. If it's similar then you may be able to help me out as well. Mine is a true daily driver too but I'm way down on et and mph (13.0 @108) from what you are. I drive it to the track, run it, and drive it home so I don't tune it up for race day or touch the boost. These times were on pump gas (no alky) at 19 psi. I know some of it is the hard compound tires (best 60', 2.10) but I always assumed that most of it was because of the stock converter that I wasn't deep in the 12's at 110+. If you're that deep into the 11's and touching 120 then it might not be my converter.

What boost are you running? How about at stage? I have no problem brake boosting but I can't come off any harder than about 2200 rpm and 2-3 psi or I overpower the brakes and spin. Everybody else that I know running a TE-60 has a 2800 or better converter and you're about the only one I've seen pulling those times with a stock one. Do you lock and when? Did the ATR rear bar help. I've got alky now so upping the boost is do-able and that should help mph. I've got a unkown chip now but hoping to get a tt alky chip soon. My car is great for a daily driver and I was always afraid if I put a higher stall in it it would loose just a little driveability. I don't want that but I do want as much out of it as possible and if I can get it with the stock d-5 I'd be happier than a pig in mud.

On the positive side any lag from a roll acts like traction control on the street.

Thanks

Im running like 26psi, but Ive turned it down some since the season is over and I wont be driving the car too much this winter. Probably only to my buddies shop so we can tear apart the motor.

scojack 2001,nice times on the stock turbo!i never had the patience to push the stocker that fast but i didn't make the same mistake with the ta49.the 3255e is said to support 520 horse,the 44 580 horse and 850cfm,the 61 varies depending on which one.the kicker is all those turbo's work so it's just a matter of preference in my opinion.some believe in overkill, some believe in just enough turbo to get there goals accomplished.working on a budget i would recommend a slightly used turbo since it its cheaper,a good converter,and the spare $ buying a wideband to dial it in carefully!

Thanks. Its the only turbo I have, so I gotta work with it for now. Id like to get a used turbo here soon, and maybe a H&R bar with my tax money. I do have a TR hood I can barter with as well, if need be. Convertor, I was thinking maybe a modified D5 for now; then step up to a 10" in the future. We'll see. Wideband would be nice, but thats a little too advanced for me right now, not to mention out of my budget; unfortunately.

SJ

 

[Clark6]

a 3000 new converter from a modified 2800 orange stripe DID NOT AFFECT MY DRIVABLITY at all on the street (lock up) but with new drag radials (M/T) and better trans with a te-44 stock sway bar, i knocked a complete 1.0 sec off the 1/8th picked up 6 mph in the 1/8th & 60ft went from 2.0 to 1.64, 1.63, 1.67 on the foot brake at 5lb launch. dont let that converter hold you back that with the tires definately work. modified d5 new was like $300 a brand new 9.5 in (easy to spool) Edge convertor was only $580 shipped to my door. Pats converters also are very reasonable priced also and comes in 9 or 10" i believe.

 

[bison]

3255, 6131, 44 can all be found used for under $700. Ive seen 44's for around $450. An easy 115+mph turbo with stock heads and cam and good tuning.

 

[callmeebryan]

scojack_2001, im still offering my pt-63 to you to buy. Used very little (about 1000 miles or so), only one full pass at the track, a couple weekend street nights....

Shoot me an offer via PM if you are interested. Its a GREAT Turbo, i just want to go a little larger as i feel ive hit the potential with this turbo.

 

[ARL]

Postons, Southeastern Turbo and G-body have the TE-44's that are watercooled.

 

[jamier]

answer to your questions

my car is also a regular daily driver and i easily do 200 ++ miles on it per week. I had no problems running the 60 with the stock converter. I drive the car to the track bolt on the slicks the race and drive it home after a tire change back to the gta wheels. My boost was 25-26 lbs with 94 octane and alky ( denautred) I wasn't using the atr bar but a hr bar in the rear. Like I said very similar to your setup> this past season I added the maf translator and the ls-1 maf, and also upgraded the injectors the 50's, I also swapped the converter for a 3000 stall. I havent been able to run the car properly with the new setup. I blew a headgasket in bowling green at the staging lineand was only able to make 1 pass untuned before it went 11.80 . the 11.40 pass was made with the stock unopened high milege engine stock tranny and converter stock maf and just a few boltons similar if not identical to yoursmy 60ft on that run was a 1.68 not the best at all but the car pulled like a mother to make up for it. ive never left off the foot brake but i do have the s-10 clynders and the big shoe upgrade I can hold 10lbs at the line just fine with the pedal so i leave on that. hope this answers your questions if not write me

 

[ChavoLC2]

Te44

Most people are upgrading and getting rid of the Old School journal bearing Te44s,49s as well as other models and going with the quicker spooling BBs. 44s and 49 are a great turbos and I've seen em for usually 400-450 used. Picked up a Te 44 for 250 from TurboTerry i was blessed :smile: to get it for that price he was asking was shocked Just Happened to see the ad and jumped on it immeadiately before anyone else talk about luck, wasn't in the market cause of cash flow but saw it for 250 and told/asked the old lady that it was such a great deal and she concurred. :biggrin: It's nice to move more air. and to have an understanding spouse. So I Usually check For-Sale section daily as there are always good deals ya gotta jump on them I try and buy used. Was fortunate also to get a translator with a 3.5" LS1 MAF from notacarlo for a vey reasonable price as he was upgrading to a MAFless system. Have got to thank these gentlemen as they were generous and this po' boy was able to upgrade. A Te 44 and translator/3.5ls1 maf and new TTchip for just under 5 bills. just stay on top of the classifieds you'll find a Te44 or other model for a reasonable price alot of guys are going bigger, once your addicted to Boost you need more of the daily Boost allowance you've gotten used to. Man if I could afford it I'd buy Bryan's 63 and sell you the 44 but right now I'm happy with the power level and with the old technology, plus I just bought a hydroboost setup so I can stop this Led Sled. You'll find one good luck...

 

[corsair231]

Thanks jamier. I was wondering how much I was leaving at the line with the stock converter. Most people tell me that the D-5 is my problem but you ran where I want to be with a stock one so maybe I can too. I've got the s-10 cylinders but I haven't put them on yet due to the horror stories about rw lockup. But with those and some good tires I might be on my way.

 

[callmeebryan]

Most people are upgrading and getting rid of the Old School journal bearing Te44s,49s as well as other models and going with the quicker spooling BBs. 44s and 49 are a great turbos and I've seen em for usually 400-450 used. Picked up a Te 44 for 250 from TurboTerry i was blessed :smile: to get it for that price he was asking was shocked Just Happened to see the ad and jumped on it immeadiately before anyone else talk about luck, wasn't in the market cause of cash flow but saw it for 250 and told/asked the old lady that it was such a great deal and she concurred. :biggrin: It's nice to move more air. and to have an understanding spouse. So I Usually check For-Sale section daily as there are always good deals ya gotta jump on them I try and buy used. Was fortunate also to get a translator with a 3.5" LS1 MAF from notacarlo for a vey reasonable price as he was upgrading to a MAFless system. Have got to thank these gentlemen as they were generous and this po' boy was able to upgrade. A Te 44 and translator/3.5ls1 maf and new TTchip for just under 5 bills. just stay on top of the classifieds you'll find a Te44 or other model for a reasonable price alot of guys are going bigger, once your addicted to Boost you need more of the daily Boost allowance you've gotten used to. Man if I could afford it I'd buy Bryan's 63 and sell you the 44 but right now I'm happy with the power level and with the old technology, plus I just bought a hydroboost setup so I can stop this Led Sled. You'll find one good luck...

Cmon, break out the piggy bank!!!! :biggrin:

 

[scojack_2001]

Thanks for all the replies guys. Callmebryan, thanks for the offer on the turbo. I'd love to upgrade, but Ive got some trans issues I gotta take care of first. If I get some cash, I'll let you know. I was only hoping to spend between $400-500 on a turbo, but we'll see.

200-4Rs dont like me...

BTW, Ive never even heard of a PT63...

 

[bluettype]

there is a pt 60 on ebay probally go cheap.

 

[callmeebryan]

Thanks for all the replies guys. Callmebryan, thanks for the offer on the turbo. I'd love to upgrade, but Ive got some trans issues I gotta take care of first. If I get some cash, I'll let you know. I was only hoping to spend between $400-500 on a turbo, but we'll see.

200-4Rs dont like me...

BTW, Ive never even heard of a PT63...

Precision T63E , too much turbo nomenclature :tongue:

3" inlet/ 2" outlet compressor. Good for over 650hp

I have a 2600-2800 converter in my car and it spools just fine. Tuning is key

They are about 950$ brand new.... i'd sell for 700 o/b/o

Going to the track on saturday for its last run of the year.... hope to hit 10.80's or so on alky..... then ill be taking it off and it will be up for sale for the winter.