Biggie Oil Filters.

[G McCall]

Originally posted by TurboBob
Is there a mailorder place that carries B9's?

I don't have time to find a place locally.

Bob

Try Ramchargers or Precision Engine and Turbo.

Run a search on the subject on this site.

 

[TurboDave]

Originally posted by tom h
Dave,

re the Purolator L20003 -- my Baldwin catalog shows that cross referencing to just a bare filter catridge, the kind that fits into a separate housing. Catalog could be wrong - but have you actually used an L20003 before?

Like I said, I'm not sure of the numbers on the Pure One's :-(
I checked at a Car Quest today and they also crossed a 20003 to an internal cartige, so it's obviously wrong. Oh well, scratch the Pure One's. Bummer, I love the Pure One's while they were out.

High quality oil filters must hate JeffG, because the Pure One's I used were great. And my cold oil pressure is high enough to "test" any filter weakneses.

One more filter to add to the "short" list is the Car Quest 85258. Although I can't vouch for their quality. Just know the number crosses to the PF24's

 

[TurboDave]

Originally posted by tom h
Dave,

Have you considered the Baldwin B9 filter as a "longer Biggie"? Baldwins are not sold at mass retailers, but are readily available from many big-rig truck places. I pay $4-5 ea, and buy a few at a time.

It is 22% longer than the PF24, comparison pictures at http://community.webshots.com/album/36060495QXkyhh .

I've recently switched to Baldwin B35S (direct PF52 replacement) in my chevy truck, too.

I had a thread on Baldwin going, http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=37377&referrerid=3144 .

Baldwin wrote me that the B9 is rated at 100 psi continuous operating, 200 psi burst, and 250ºF continuous operating temperature.

The Purolator L30005 is a cross ref to the Baldwin B9, but the L30005 is scarce at the mass retailers -- it was out of stock at Pep Boys. The Baldwin has a much thicker and heavier metal shell than the Purolators, and its Drainback valve seems consistently very good.

I would love to try the B9's, but the one place in town that sells Baldwin filters doesn't sell B9.




Maybe I should start selling B9's mail order??

 

[JeffG]

Dave, sometimes I get the feeling the filters not the only thing on that car that hates me.
Anyway, I should have added that I have my bypass blocked.
I agree that the PureOne filter felt like a robust piece. I used one initally (came with the kit) but on the first oil change the new replacment PureOne crushed internally. Puked oil out all over the ground. Not a nice clean up job. Maybe a bad apple? I don't know, but I wasn't willing to do that again. As luck would have it I don't see them on the shelf anymore anyway.

 

[jsta6]

What is the difference between the biggie filters, and the dual filters?

I was thinking about getting the dual filter set up from Summit.

Seems like it would be great. The only bad thing I can think of is the additional "drag" caused by the second filter. But wouldn't a high volume oil pump fix that?

fyi, looking around, I found this:
http://www.gmhightechperformance.com/archives/tech/0702_tech01.shtml

 

[tom h]

jsta6,

The RJC "biggie" adapter is a clever, simple, fast to install adapter that preserves orginal filter mounting location, yet allows larger filter to be used.

See http://www.rjcracing.com/RJC_Buick_Products/RJC__Biggie__Oil_Filter/rjc__biggie__oil_filter.html for a pic.

the Summit setup sounds like a remote filter setup, with its attendant hoses, etc. Dual remote filters typically have the 2 filters in parallel, not series, so the pressure drop across the dual filters will be very low; no concerns about extra "drag".

I like the KISS principle used on the RJC biggie adapter (Keep It Simple, Stupid).

 

[jsta6]

Oh yeah. I like it. Seems a lot better.

What about pumps?

Would a higher volume / pressure pump move the oil faster through the cooler, making it hotter? Or is that an old wives tale?

Can the pump be replaced indepently of the cover?

 

[tom h]

jsta6,

"High Volume" front covers and pumps are a controversial topic. Tons of stuff written on it, do a search... be prepared to spend an evening studying it all !

 

[G McCall]

A very important topic here.
With high volume pumps and if using heavy weight oils such as 20-50, one should let the engine warm up before any throttle pushes. I should Know. A Baldwin B-9 oil filter blew out on me, and they are supposed to be very strong. I went back to less weight oil. Also I noticed Jeff G. says he has bypass blocked. By that I hope he means oil cooler lines attached and looped OR bypass adapter removed entirely. Again I found another way to screw my car up when installing aluminum radiator by simply "removing the oil cooler lines and plugging the holes on the adapter". Car is still in the shop having new bearings installed.

 

[jsta6]

What are the volume / pressure ratings on the stock pumps? What would be a good upgrade? 10-20% more flow?