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WHT87T, i have presently a 4.1 Stage GN. that runs 9.70 in street trim and also 86T type that is a mid 10 second car. PTE built me a stage 2 twin turbo race GN that runs mid 8's which i sold last year, so please don't tell me about these turbo cars. If you are ever in Toronto bring your buick and on the roll in first gear i have no doubt you will be seeing my rear lights. Out of the hold it's a different story because the buicks generally hook hard, on the roll torque makes a big difference.
 
Sorry dude, but I don't see a Viper just walking a '03 Cobra. Those things love to breath and are a higher RPM motors anyhow. Granted they aren't the most aerodynamic, but stock to stock #'s are pretty darn close. Besides for what the Dodge cost it should pull away. 400 HP isn't a bad deal at all for $35K and a warranty! The main component is the driver anyhow, I've seen some pretty awesome cars run some aweful times!
 
blkbart

Just because you OWN a S2 buick dosent mean you know anything about turbo cars. Sounds to me like you just have money. I cant go up to Toronto but show up at a TSM race and I'll show you my tail lights. How fast your car goes dosent tell me anything about how mechanically inclined you are. Just my .02:D
 
Originally posted by Gmachine
Sorry dude, but I don't see a Viper just walking a '03 Cobra. Those things love to breath and are a higher RPM motors anyhow. Granted they aren't the most aerodynamic, but stock to stock #'s are pretty darn close.

My 502 pontiac was faster in testing at big bend on radar than a Cobra with limiter off and exhaust. The 2+2 pulled 162 mph into a monster headwind and 167 the other way before I got out of it (I was only supposed to go 165). The Radar operator said the Cobra went 157 into the headwind and 162 with the tailwind. a 450 hp Viper or '02+ Z06 would be 5-10 mph faster than my pontiac.

my 2+2 is about 1 second and 5 mph slower than my T-type in the 1/4. The new cobras are fast 100-130, but above that, I'd put money on a viper or zo6.
 
1. Vipers are fa ugly.

2. I raced a black Cobra convert last night from a red light. I was behind him. I pulled up on his left. After my tires caught I was by him pretty quickly. Year of the Cobra? Beats me - they all look alike.

3. I looked at a bunch of '03 Cobras on the lot last nite. No back seat. No headroom. Suede seats - yikes - where's the Elvis mural? $1000 gaz guzzler tax - didn't know that. I think that car would be fun for, say, 5 minutes. And then you'd say, OMG, I have 59 more payments.

4. Vipers are fa ugly. I don't care how fast Vipers are. They are 2500 pound fa ugly cars with 10 cylinders truck motors, driven by guys with gold chains and bad rugs.

5. And lastly, Vipers are fa ugly. Did I mention that already?

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Mike ...you said "unless someone else is going to make supercharged mustangs"

I had a guy that works for Rouch Engineering and brought a test car.... looked pretty wicked

even tho it can hit a G or whatever on the skidpad its a 50,000 Mustang... which is way too much
 
Dan, I guess I won't worry about the 'charged-stang's until your TTA looks like that:p "no matter how fast you are there is always someone faster":)
 
"You better have your wood screws cause Im gonna blow your doors off!!!!!!" -Dazed and Confused :D
 
WHT87T you are a first class A-hole want to be never been anything but fodder for animals excrement. I work hard for what i got and make no apology for making a buck along the way maybe you should try rather than running your big mouth. I have had GN's for 1987 built more and sold than you can count because it's more than your tiny fingers. Anytime you want to run on the roll A-hole i would love to accomadate you.
 
I want to know one thing about the 2003 Cobras.. YES, they are fast as hell, YES, the price tag is far too much for me... How are these things going to stay together?? They are fine right now blasting down the track and all that, but the N/A 4.6's were having problems staying together because of heat. So lets put a supercharger on that with some manley rods and everything will be ok?? I can't see how they are going to stay together. And i remember reading on blue oval news about them halting the production due to premature engine failures a while back. I like them a lot but would be scared to spend 35K on a grenade.

Scott
 
Originally posted by FastGN007
I want to know one thing about the 2003 Cobras.. YES, they are fast as hell, YES, the price tag is far too much for me... How are these things going to stay together?? They are fine right now blasting down the track and all that, but the N/A 4.6's were having problems staying together because of heat. So lets put a supercharger on that with some manley rods and everything will be ok?? I can't see how they are going to stay together. And i remember reading on blue oval news about them halting the production due to premature engine failures a while back. I like them a lot but would be scared to spend 35K on a grenade.

Scott

The motors are built stronger than almost any gas motor coming out of detroit. About the only thing they have in common with a sohc 4.6 is the number 4.6.

I don't think they have many drawbacks for Drag Racing, but for open road racing, they do have drawbacks, though. High RPM's = high boost, but low throttle opening of high speed cruising = little fuel. high boost and little fuel = white hot EGT's and blown headgaskets.
 
I do work for a living, I fly morons around like you on vacation. I'm glad you got a couple of fast cars man. I'd rather hear some kill stories from the buick rather than you rave about your overpriced V10 on a buick forum. Save your kill stories for the viper forums. You remind me of random mustang owners who come on this forum just to talk trash. Have a nice day!:D :D :D
 
The new Cobras aren't 6 months old so I doubt any are $25K, yet. Give it time. There will be a point where they hit bottom, 3 to 4 years after new, before the price goes back up. With a new body style coming out in '05, just watch the prices drop.

My 01 Lightning just sold for $25k and the MSRP was $2k less so don't hold your breath too long, also Ford has said there will be no 05 Cobra (last I heard) and it will be re introduced as an 06 model. SVT's hold their price.
 
dammmmm !!! ok Ill bite... Mike what kinda sticker do ya have on the Honda :p
 
Buick Motorsports :D

It added 500 Front Wheel Horepower!

I put a Nitto Tire sticker on it to help me launch :cool:
 
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