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Little6pack

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You poor folks in Calif.

SACRAMENTO - The day many California drivers have dreaded is about to arrive: The Davis administration is expected to triple the state's vehicle license fee by administrative order as early as today, generating billions of dollars to help close California's gaping budget hole.

The average car owner can expect his or her annual so-called "car tax" bill to go up by $136. There will be a 30-day reprieve as the state adjusts its computers for the new rate; then the higher bills will begin appearing in the mailboxes of California car, truck, trailer and motorcycle owners.

With state lawmakers deadlocked over passage of a state budget and 11 days left in the fiscal year, the move comes as state coffers are running dry, save for an $11-billion short-term loan secured this week to keep the government operating for a couple of months. Officials with the Davis administration and the office of the state controller interpret the 1998 law that lowered vehicle license fees as saying that when the state reaches the kind of dire financial straits it is in now, that "triggers" the tax to automatically go back up.

Republicans and taxpayer groups called it a legally dubious claim. They released an opinion from the nonpartisan legislative counsel's office Thursday that suggested that hiking the tax now would be illegal without a two-thirds vote of approval from the Legislature. They said they probably will file a court challenge.

"It is ludicrous to suggest some low-level Department of Finance functionary can trigger a $4-billion tax increase," said Jon Coupal, president of the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Assn.

Republican state Sen. Tom McClintock (R-Thousand Oaks) said he is prepared to rush to the secretary of state's office today to launch a ballot initiative to abolish the car tax altogether within an hour after the fee increase order is issued.

But opponents of the fee acknowledged that state law would make it extremely difficult to immediately stop the increase. The state Constitution prohibits courts from stopping the collection of any tax until the case against it has been fully litigated.

"They know they can collect an illegal tax for at least a few years before the courts can stop them, and that is why they are doing this," McClintock said of the governor and controller.

The ballot measure McClintock is advocating to abolish the tax altogether would not appear before voters until November 2004. For the measure to qualify, McClintock would need to collect 378,000 signatures of registered voters.

"I've already had 10,000 people sign up at my Web site as a result of a few radio interviews pledging a total of 600,000 signatures," he said.

Davis administration officials said they have consulted with a cadre of attorneys, including the attorney general's office and the in-house counsel of the governor and controller, who affirmed that the tax increase is legal.

"We are taking the most conservative interpretation of the statute and how it is implemented because we intend to survive the court test," said Department of Finance Director Steve Peace.

Peace dismissed a finding by the legislative counsel that the tax rate would have to change every month based on how much money was in the state coffers. He said it would be unconstitutional for the tax rate to fluctuate that way.

When the vehicle license fee was lowered in 1998, it came with a guarantee that the state would reimburse local governments the revenue they stood to lose from the tax cut.

Peace argued that the state cannot afford to make the $4-billion reimbursement in the coming fiscal year, so the tax must go back up to keep funds flowing to local governments.

He said the state is running entirely on borrowed money as legislators struggle to reach agreement on a spending plan by the beginning of the new fiscal year, July 1. Lawmakers appear nowhere close to a deal as the state hovers dangerously close to being assigned a "junk bond" credit rating that would raise the cost of future borrowing substantially. California already has the lowest credit rating of any state.

"The state has never been in this position before," Peace said. "We are managing this state the same way you would manage a company that is on the brink."

The latest push by the GOP to stop the fee hike is a double-edged sword for the party.

If a court stops the hike, it would remove a major revenue source and a government shutdown would become more probable.

Assembly Budget Committee Vice Chairman John Campbell (R-Irvine) made no apologies.

"We don't believe it will be us that shuts down the state government," he said. "If [Democrats'] insistence upon having tax and spending increases in this budget drives the state to the point of some shutdown or whatever, that will be a decision they choose to make."

Los Angeles Police Chief William J. Bratton, who was in the Capitol when Campbell briefed reporters, said that not pulling the car-tax trigger "is a recipe for chaos" that could stop the flow of sorely needed money.

"It's hard for me to figure out what is going on in this building here," Bratton said. "The reality of the world out there is that this stuff has the potential to cause real harm."

Bratton was in Sacramento with Los Angeles Mayor James K. Hahn and other California mayors to urge lawmakers not to seize revenue from cities in closing a $38-billion shortfall.

Though the mayors had initially called for no state cuts, Hahn said, they have since agreed to accept a modest, one-year reduction.

"We're saying we can work with you to make a contribution this year, which is different than the position we started out in, which was, 'Leave us completely alone. Don't touch us at all,' " Hahn said.

Senate Republican Leader Jim Brulte gave the mayors some good news.

"I would be very surprised if a multiyear hit passes the Legislature," Brulte said.

As cities sought to keep tax revenues coming their way, business and taxpayer groups announced several ballot proposals they are pushing to make it more difficult for lawmakers to raise taxes.

The measures would remove a section of the law that allows Democrats to raise fees with a simple majority vote. Another provision would increase the number of votes needed to raise taxes to two-thirds plus one in each legislative house.

The campaign was launched in response to a union drive to put a measure on the ballot that would lower the threshold for raising taxes from a two-thirds majority to 550f the Legislature.

If the union measure is successful, Democrats would be able to enact a tax hike without any Republican votes.
 
Bruce T., how could you let this happen! Let's see, at an average increase of $136.00 per car owned, that's about $5,000 for you, isn't it? ;)
 
Don't worry, the people are gonna recall Davis and elect Arnold governor. Well, hopefully.
 
Yea...

I am screwed...:rolleyes:

I told you someone needed to assasinate him!! (Gray Davis)

He didn't take a cut in pay , did He?



Bruce
WE4
 
Not like everyone couldn't see this coming from a mile away. The state of California and the various local municipalities are broke. Consequently everyone is looking for revenue anywhere they can get it and don't give a damn where it comes from.

California is paying to educate, feed, clothe, and provide free healthcare for a bunch of Julios and other illegals. A recent survey showed that 21% of Los Angeles residents live in poverty. Translation, the working people of California are paying to support 21% of Los Angeles residents. :rolleyes: When you couple this with a loss of jobs here in California and the resulting loss of tax base due to companies relocating to more business friendly states, it's not hard to see how this crisis developed. Too many takers and not enough givers. If you pass around a hat full of dollar bills and everyone is taking two out but only putting 1 in.....well you get the idea.

The system is slowly unraveling not only in California but in the United States as a whole. Welcome to America, future 3rd world country. Maybe it's time to look into relocating to Australia. :eek:
 
When are the Californian's going to wake up and put down the crack pipes and start voting for Conservative leaders? In principle Liberals have good ideas, but they don't know how to make them work. Going broke trying is not making it work!

James
 
I'm not a big political fanatic myself but I do agree that davis has got to go. This fool managed to put us in an "energy crisis" last summer which caused us to have to purchase energy out of state. This ended up costing us more and what helped to drain our economy.
It also turns out that Davis and his supporters were profiting from the energy companies we were getting our energy from which led to an investigation. Don't know the results.
Now he is up to more "band-aids" to try to fix problems he keeps causing.
One thing for sure he is going to make his successor look like a Hero!
my .01
 
The roosters are just headed home.

After years of over spending, they're caught in their own mess.

With the way the C.A.R.B. has been chasing industry, out of state, no one's left to pay the taxes for the services folks want. Gee, what a surprise.

And with the wonderful job the unions, and woman rights folks are doing the average American worker produces less and less so manufacturing goes overseas.

With the current strategies for big business running America, once all the profits are milked, folks will just be sitting around in their mud huts wondering what happened. Gummit is by the PEOPLE, and folks are too busy giving their rights away to grasp what the long term effects are.

Maybe when CA goes broke, the rest of the country can finally see what the nut cases in office have really done, with the Hollywood brain trust, endorsement.
BTW, did Rosie pack up and leave the country yet, like she promised too?
LOL.
 
The increase could boost the annual fees by an average of about $130.

What, do all Californians drive rickety model T-s with square wheels?? My property tax alone on my Vette is about $800 a year.:confused:
 
Originally posted by GNSCOTT
What, do all Californians drive rickety model T-s with square wheels?? My property tax alone on my Vette is about $800 a year.:confused:

Thats RAISING it about $130

My GF's car (99 Intrepid) was like $3-400. That car isn't worth much.

My 85 was $47 per year.
 
The fees are broken down, I think their just rasing the VLF, which is what they lowered before.
 
Bruce/Turbon8R,
Yall got it right. Its that simple. It is all blowing East too. I am no Einstein, but my intuition tells me this nation has seen its best days come and they are going. The 50/50 split of Democrat vs Republican shows us we're a divided nation. I see chaos in the future.
 
Bruce, excellent post!!!

Keep all those loonies out there. I enjoy my $36 yearly fee for my GN. :D
 
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