Chip question

[Wld87GN]

I already know that I am new at this stuff, but I have been advised by everyone that I need to upgrade my chip from stock. I am guessig Turbo Tweak is the way to go and looking at all of the drop down boxes, and tings to fill in, they are burned specific to the application.

My question is this: If I were to get a chip to match what I have now, which is basically stock, do I need to get new chips for the mods I make along the way or do you guys wait to replace the chip at a certain point?

For example: Stock chip, upgraded to TT chip with stock config, slightly bumped injectors. But then if you add alky, you need a whole new chip? Same goes for a new turbo, etc?

What is the criteria that indicates that you need a chip upgrade or swap?

Thanks!

 

[GullsGN]

I already know that I am new at this stuff, but I have been advised by everyone that I need to upgrade my chip from stock. I am guessig Turbo Tweak is the way to go and looking at all of the drop down boxes, and tings to fill in, they are burned specific to the application.

My question is this: If I were to get a chip to match what I have now, which is basically stock, do I need to get new chips for the mods I make along the way or do you guys wait to replace the chip at a certain point?

For example: Stock chip, upgraded to TT chip with stock config, slightly bumped injectors. But then if you add alky, you need a whole new chip? Same goes for a new turbo, etc?

What is the criteria that indicates that you need a chip upgrade or swap?

Thanks!

Basically, that is correct. The combo is chip, turbo, and injectors, for the most part. If you do not do them together, Then each change requires a chip change. I believe you can just send the chip back and TT will reprogram it. The stock chip is so bad, that if I only had limited funds I would at least change that, then reprogram the chip when I can afford the turbo and injectors. Hope that helps you.

 

[Wld87GN]

Basically, that is correct. The combo is chip, turbo, and injectors, for the most part. If you do not do them together, Then each change requires a chip change. I believe you can just send the chip back and TT will reprogram it. The stock chip is so bad, that if I only had limited funds I would at least change that, then reprogram the chip when I can afford the turbo and injectors. Hope that helps you.

I have the funds, but I do not see a need to start ripping this car apart before ever enjoying it in it's almost stock form... also let's not forget I have a tremendous amount to learn before I go crazy with upgrades. I figure chip was a no-brainer for now. I am also getting rid of the chambered mufflers in favor of a straight thru type. TT chip ordering today. I guess selecting street use, pump gas 93, suits my application.

 

[GullsGN]

I have the funds, but I do not see a need to start ripping this car apart before ever enjoying it in it's almost stock form... also let's not forget I have a tremendous amount to learn before I go crazy with upgrades. I figure chip was a no-brainer for now. I am also getting rid of the chambered mufflers in favor of a straight thru type. TT chip ordering today. I guess selecting street use, pump gas 93, suits my application.

You are on the right track. How stock is it? Stock breather to turbo on the pass valve cover? Stock air box? Fuel pump stock and hot wired? Fuel pressure regulator stock (233), upgrade (237), or adjustable? How many miles?

 

[earlbrown]

If you have the cheese I'd go ahead and get a chip and a matching set of 60's. That'll save you a reburn when you realize the stock 25 year old injectors are shot. Plus you'll have the fuel on hand when you start adding mods.

 

[Wld87GN]

You are on the right track. How stock is it? Stock breather to turbo on the pass valve cover? Stock air box? Fuel pump stock and hot wired? Fuel pressure regulator stock (233), upgrade (237), or adjustable? How many miles?

upgraded breathers on Turbo and VC, stock airbox gone, 340 fuel pump with HW kit, stock FPR (233)

 

[GullsGN]

upgraded breathers on Turbo and VC, stock airbox gone, 340 fuel pump with HW kit, stock FPR (233)

Ok, then. First purchase I would do is chip, adjustable FPR, and injectors. This will give you a quicker spool, and a much better idle and every day drivability. When you want to go faster address the turbo, converter, alchy, tranny work, heads etc. If it hasn't been done you should do the timing chain and valve springs now, also.

 

[Wld87GN]

If you have the cheese I'd go ahead and get a chip and a matching set of 60's. That'll save you a reburn when you realize the stock 25 year old injectors are shot. Plus you'll have the fuel on hand when you start adding mods.

I agree Earl, the injectors are newer 30#'s which I agree are way too small for anything in the future.

 

[earlbrown]

There's more too it that that. It will also help eliminate a variable in the near future when you're troubleshooting odd knock, strange BLMs, weird 02 reading, etc....

These cars love to screw with troubleshooters by sending people down the wrong path with 'good' parts that aren't exactly good.

 

[Wld87GN]

There's more too it that that. It will also help eliminate a variable in the near future when you're troubleshooting odd knock, strange BLMs, weird 02 reading, etc....

These cars love to screw with troubleshooters by sending people down the wrong path with 'good' parts that aren't exactly good.

Okay I understand. 60#'s, I figured 42#'s would be sufficient but I am okay with the the suggestion. Any particular brand to stay away from, or ones that are recommeneded?

 

[earlbrown]

There's only one. Mototron 60's. They'll idle as good as a stocker and can flow enough to keep you in mods for a while. Plus all the chip burners are familiar with them.

 

[Wld87GN]

Awesome... I like how this is coming together!

 

[Wld87GN]

Thanks for the help. Ordered 60# injectors, and TT chip to match.

 

[earlbrown]

Next you can tackle timing chains and valve springs and fuel pumps and hotwire kits!

 

[Wld87GN]

Next you can tackle timing chains and valve springs and fuel pumps and hotwire kits!

Fuel pump and hot wire kit are done already. and I just ordered an adjustable FPR as well.

I am not too sure about the valve springs, but trust me they will get taken care of. Timing chain is not a big deal, except removing all of this crap in the way.

 

[earlbrown]

Timing chain looks worse than it really is. Once the balancer bolt is out the rest is just small bolts and complete assemblys. The entire job can be done with one person and plain hand tools.

 

[TurboTnZ06]

You can also program the TT chip yourself in 5 minutes as well with a scanmaster and the gas pedal if you want to throw more fuel or timing at it with race gas at the track.