Yep. I just got rid of a Gen VII because there's only a couple of tuners that REALLY know the ins and outs of it. If you don't have one within a short driving distance, I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. I've used FAST for four years, and have access to one of the best FAST tuners around and we couldn't make the Gen VII idle worth a damn, couldn't tell where the timing was at, and never could get the WB o2 working. Got a new FAST on its way to me now.