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Danster

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I have not had any sucess in starting the car after I changed the
timing belt. I went through and removed the oil pump from the cover and replaced the gaskets and cleaned up all areas of the pump and front cover before re-installation. I followed the procedures (i think) for priming the oil pump. I removed the top hose from the radiator and put a funnel and sucked up a quart of oil using an oil priming tool. I reconnected the hose and began to prime the pump clockwise. Not sure if I did it long enough. Valve covers were on.

Anyways, did a little searching to determine why I couldn't start my car and came across a post of someone having gas in their oil. This got me thinking because I tried starting the car several times and noticed the strong odor of gas. So I checked the oil and sure enough it smelled like gasoline. Why?????? Did I not pump the oil pump correctly? what else could I have done incorrectly?

Which method is the best procedure stuff it with vasoline or the oil pump procedures in gnttype.org???

Desperate in trying to get this car started again. Need you help!

Thanks!

Dannyo
 
Sounds like a no spark situation. If the fuel doesn't burn, it will eventually dilute the oil. Change the oil and filter, and post your no start problem here. Obviously, you have fuel, probably have air, so the logical guess is no spark. Check your cam sensor, since you had the front cover off. Ohm the coil packs, too. My guess is cam sensor, if it ran before the work was done. Good luck.
 
The above Posts provide good areas of concern for your no-start. The fuel will 'pool' on top of the oil in time and straight fuel on bearings is anything but good for them. I used the Vaseline method and it worked very well. Be wary of prolonged sitting in hot summer temps with the Vaseline in there as it will 'melt' and not provide the suction required to pull the oil thru the engine. Check the above mentioned sensors for proper installation and clearance, change the oil and filter and light 'er up.
HTH
Jim
 
I just changed out the oil and filter again :rolleyes:

When I change my timing belt I made sure the crank and cam gears were dot to dot before I reinstalled the new gears and chain. So I would assume the #1 was at TDC. I then installed the balancer/damper and marked a line where the dots were. I then noticed there was square notch on the damper. When the cover was reinstalled I brought #1 to TDC. The squarte notch lined with 0 on the pointer.

I understand from reading there are actually two TDC's. What is a sure way to identify the TDC on the compression stroke? Should the valves be closed (down/squeezed) or should they be up to verify TDC?


Dannyo
 
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