How do I make this work?

[BARRACUDA1968]

I have a nice intake set up but since I'm going to the 3.5" MAF from a 3" I'm running in to an issue. The intake hose in the picture will not stretch so there's no way it will go around the 3.5" MAF.

I like my intake system because the air cleaner in down in front of the cowl. The only down side I can see is maybe it getting wet in heavy rain driving?

I may have to go with a new set up unless you guys have any ideas for me?

 

[SHADOWII]

You can go to a hardware store such as Lowe's and purchase the rubber adapters for pvc pipe, using a 3" dia. piece of aluminum pipe or similar to attach the existing hose to. As well as the 3" side of the 3 to 3.5" adapter, then a 2nd adapter from the 3.5" to whatever is next.

 

[87geeinn]

Whatever you do to make it work will look ghetto. Get a solid MAF pipe with a silicone reducer hose. Stick a 3.5" K&N on the end of that.

 

[BARRACUDA1968]

I appreciate the responses. I guess I could do what SHADOWII mentioned and keep my system but not sure how many connections I want to have but that is an option.

I do like the clean look and I also like SIMPLE. The system I have was really designed for the stock MAF. When mine shot craps and I went to the 3" and translator I had to make some minor modifications then.

I did a search last night on intake systems and it was like reading what's the best oil threads.

The TR system looked decent but I really didn't want the air filter under the hood, I like my set up now but I may not have a choice?

 

[SHADOWII]

You are actually talking about the cold air intake or CAI, as it is more commonly referred to. There are the tin man, which exits thru the rear of the head lights and I'm not sure if TR's biggy unit does or not. I purchased Mark's shorty. Great pieces but pricey. If you go SD, you can drop the maf.

 

[BARRACUDA1968]

I will check out the Tin Man. I was going to go SD but then I had a bearing failure with the old motor. I was using a 5.6 chip and I had a great tune according to the powerlogger. I had planned to run the 5.6 chip until I got real comfortable with the car but that never happened. I've had the car a year now.

Now I'm building a 109 stroker so for simplicity sake I'm going to run a 5.7 per Dave Husek's advice and keep things simple. I still need more seat time with the TB before I add tuning software that will take my focus away from the basics. I need to walk before I run but I do like the SD concept. I have a Thundermax self tuning system on my Harley and it is basically the same thing as the SD2 chip. Around here I am the Harley go to guy with tuning but not so much with the TB.

 

[earlbrown]

Will this work?

http://turbobuick.com/forums/threads/3-5-maf-pipe.405358/

 

[BARRACUDA1968]

I'm not sure? I'll be running a TE45a and the larger MAF.

I was hoping to get the air filter out of the engine bay, just like the look better. This set up looks like the A/F connects to the MAF?

 

[earlbrown]

You can connect an elbow to the MAF from a cold air kit or leave the filter in the engine bay. That pipe is set up for the common 3" turbo inlet and the larger 3.5" MAFs.

Will your piping allow your current kit to hook to your larger MAF?

 

[BARRACUDA1968]

No my Tomko flexible tubing will not stretch over the 3.5 MAF on the air cleaner side (yes I did take the adapter ring out of the tubing) Plus my inlet pipe is 3" to the turbo so the question is where do you bottle neck it? Run 3.5" all the way to the turbo or just to the MAF and run 3" to the turbo?

 

[psycho6cyl]

buickgn.com has the kits that go from end of maf/maf pipe through headlight bucket to hang down below.

 

[earlbrown]

No my Tomko flexible tubing will not stretch over the 3.5 MAF on the air cleaner side (yes I did take the adapter ring out of the tubing) Plus my inlet pipe is 3" to the turbo so the question is where do you bottle neck it? Run 3.5" all the way to the turbo or just to the MAF and run 3" to the turbo?

I neck it down there the 3.5 pipe meets the turbo with a smooth reducing coupling.

 

[BARRACUDA1968]

That makes sense. That's what I'll do.

 

[robzombie]

What size is the inlet on your 45a??

 

[BARRACUDA1968]

I'm assuming 3"? Dave Husek still has it.

 

[earlbrown]

It's 3"

 

[robzombie]

If you want to keep the same style inlet hose that you have you could get a 3.5" hose for around 30 bucks and put a rubber spacer on the turbo inlet that would enlarge it to 3.5" and the other end would slide directly over the maf.

I have a 4" inlet on the turbo and run a 4" hose to the 3.5 maf and put the rubber spacer on it to mate the 4" hose. I also have the air filter outside the engine bay behind the bumper.

I like the simple look of the hose like you do, and I also like that it's not as much of a heat sink like a steel or aluminum pipe.

If you need a supplier for the hose if you go that way let me know and I'll give you the web site.

 

[earlbrown]

If its a black hose it will absorb radiant energy and convert it to heat much more than an aluminum pipe. In the real world with hundreds of g/sec traveling though it, I can't imagine it would matter.

 

[robzombie]

If its a black hose it will absorb radiant energy and convert it to heat much more than an aluminum pipe. In the real world with hundreds of g/sec traveling though it, I can't imagine it would matter.

Yeah tell that to my hand when it touches the metal pipe that is hot to the touch from radiant under hood heat and the turbo inlet hose which is always cool to the touch.

 

[earlbrown]

Would this be a metal pipe full of hot coolant? or do you have a plastic MAF pipe and a metal one under the hood?


So I should ditch my metal intercooler and radiator and get a flexible plastic one?


If I set a piece of black plastic and a mirror out in the sun which one will heat up?