How fast are you going on a STOCK or near stock tranny?

[d0n_3d]

Call me paranoid but I have a mid 11 second combo and I keep on reading articles about how the 200-4R transmission is a piece and it will always break on you and how it's not made for our motors properly, or how a completely stock car will break a tranny...etc. So let's get some comments here...how many of you guys are racing on a stock or nearly stock tranny and how fast are you going? those who have broke, what part was it that let go? i am trying to get an idea here on whether or not i should rebuild my 90k mile stock tranny soon or just let it go until something breaks...so far so good for my tranny as i have had a tranny cooler on it all it's life and i haven't done much racing with the car until the last year or so...it still shifts very firm and i don't experience any slippage or missed gears...i don't even have a shift kit or anything on the tranny...just b+m trick shift fluid and i keep up with the fluid changes and filter changes...

maybe i am just paranoid because recently i have bent both stock axles and my valve springs have gotton so weak and other misc. parts have failed all at once...i just have a feeling my stock tranny isn't gonna hold up to a 10 lb boost launch on slicks and running 25 lbs of boost on the street with an alky system

 

[xtreme6mwm]

I have gone a best of 11.27@119mph with a stock trans and a stock converter. I race my car a good bit and it seems to be holding up pretty good so far,although i am currently looking into getting a good converter, it's getting tough to hold the car back with 10lbs of boost at the line

 

[2quiktocare]

life?

Don, my advice would be to enjoy what its doing now and start saving your money for the right trans in the future. You have saved yourself much headache by running a cooler and timely services. I have heard of people doing just as Mike is with his. Just realize, you have turbo-addiction and your need for speed will continue until you reach that break point (of the car and wallet. (LOL) Bruce's daily driver, with our Killer /Street trans is living with his constant abuse with a 120k on it now. The only weak point to a 200 4r is the rebuilder and the parts you choose. The word for the future trans you get is BILLET. A good word to live by ,,,,,,,,,,,,,Mark

 

[HOTTOGO]

Re: life?

Originally posted by 2quiktocare
Don, my advice would be to enjoy what its doing now and start saving your money for the right trans in the future. ... The word for the future trans you get is BILLET. A good word to live by ,,,,,,,,,,,,,Mark

I agree with 2quick, I have essentially a killer/street trans.

http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48483

and have a 3600lb Monte SS and 1300 miles and a dozen or so 13 sec. passes 'til a couple weeks ago it said "SNAP!" (fwd. drum) on the 2-3 shift on my first pass of the nite (w/drag radials), now I'm going with billet. It's a roll of the dice some break on stock and some don't break on 9 sec. cars, but for the peace of mind you should think about billet input shaft and forward drum these are the one most common to fail.

 

[d0n_3d]

cool guys...thanks for the encouragement...i will just have fun with the car now and just save my money for a complete tranny rebuild when or if the tranny does break...like i said it's doing very well right now and shifts are perfect still at 90k and you can really feel the car shift...i have ran low 12's on slicks a couple times so i guess i am ok...

 

[Taffy]

What is up with these cars? Is GMs quality control that bad? My GN ran 14.3s when the tranny gave up. Then it ran 8.7s in the 1/8th when the 2nd trans gave up.

Now i have a Killer Street/Strip, man it sure is pretty. I have yet to put it in yet though. ERIC.

 

[d0n_3d]

Originally posted by Taffy
What is up with these cars? Is GMs quality control that bad?

um...YES!

these cars fully loaded were around $17k when new...imagine if they would have used QUALITY parts in every area of the car...can you say $30k car that nobody can afford?
that's why they used a crappy fuel pump, non billet parts in the tranny, pathetic gauge system, crap paint, and small tires

 

[2quiktocare]

Qaulity?

I am not a GM fan for the most part (sorry Dad), but when you look at the price of these cars new, verses anything else around at the time, they were a bargain by any means. Yes, they could have used the stronger parts, and all the rest to make them flawless, but would you have paid $50k for a new one? I doubt it. This is precisely why a Porsche is $100k now and a VW is $20k. Now that the true enthusiasts are into these little black boxes, the real quality parts are becoming available. Consider, you add a $4,000 trans/converter combo to one of these cars, and even a stock one turns into a raging bull. Not a bad investment and of the highest quality too. My neighbor is extremely anal with his 911 and only got 100k on his $11k engine, and $7k trans. We have these things all around running with over 100k on them and still running strong without major repair. So quality isn't the question I don' think. ,,,,,,,,,Mark
Taffy, get that bad boy installed. we wanna hear how it makes ya feel. lol let us know buddy