installed TA49.......problem

[6instantaneous6]

Hey guys, just installed TA49 on stock T. It runs good and everything tho i found one problem....the turbo smokes. I checked the intercooler for oil and all good. no in and out play on brand new turbo. Just trying to figure out why my turbo is smoking..there must be something i'm missing and maybe you guys can help. thanks in advance.

fyi- I kept the actuator to stock length i believe 5 1/4 inch. dont have scanmaster or gauges (i know, i know but just wanted to get this car running!!!)

 

[Daniel Jost]

I would like a better definition of "smoking" as in is it coming out the exhaust? off of the turbo itself? Oil Smoke? Black smoke? How much smoke? Does it happen at idle? normal driving? or WOT?

,Dan

 

[Boost231]

those are all good questions but i would like to know where did you get this turbo?

 

[6instantaneous6]

ok...here we go. Turbo bought from Full throttle. At first when i fist started her up, she immediatley started smoking...looks white i think...smells like oil smoke.(coming from turbo itself). turned it off and later i turned it back on no smoke immediatley so i took it for a test drive. driving nice and spooling good. got home and upened hood only to find that smoke coming back from turbo while car was idling. I did not see smoke while driving.

 

[mike86ttype]

sure u didn't get oil on the turbo while installing it. and make sure ur oil lines are no leaking

 

[6instantaneous6]

sure u didn't get oil on the turbo while installing it. and make sure ur oil lines are no leaking

I'm sure i didn't. The turbo was installed spotless and i cleaned up area around. I switched turbos b/c my stock blew out on me. I cleaned out intercooler as well before hand. just checked oil lines from both ends and they are OK.

 

[Boost231]

so you say its coming from the turbo itself like the outside of it. at least its not smoking out the exhaust. my guess would be oil coming off of it. i would make sure the feed line is good and not leaking onto the turbo.

 

[6instantaneous6]

Ima take some pics to give visual that oil line is good. and also will drive it again to see what happens.

 

[Boost231]

yes please post them up or take a video and Email it to me. Boost231@hotmail.com

 

[SS_Sean]

Just for info...I installed a TA-49 this spring and it smoked for about the first couple hours I ran the car and then went away. No more smoke.

 

[6instantaneous6]

well after driving for good amount of miles, im noticing no smoke. I'm happy about that. NOW i'm working on loss of boost at WOT.

 

[Boost231]

sounds good. as far as loss of boost check your intercooler hoses

 

[Turbo6Smackdown]

Yea, I was just going to say, that all turbos smoke when ya put em on. It dont matter how well you think you clean em. It's impossible to get ALL the crap off the surface. even a little bit of something will start to smoke, when heated up like a frying pan over an open flame. Mine did it too. After it burns it all off (about an hour) it wont smoke. But yea, now that youre not smokin anymore, check for oil in the bad place. The tailpipe. If no smoke there, then youre good to go. But make sure you get some guages and a scanmaster before you go messin around any further.

 

[b_rich24]

well after driving for good amount of miles, im noticing no smoke. I'm happy about that. NOW i'm working on loss of boost at WOT.

Cool. I was going to mention that smoking will occur from a new turbo, downpipe and headers. It is just normal burn-off. If it is billowing or lasts more than a couple of hours - then you should worry. As far as the loss of WOT boost - is that in comparison to your old (stock?) turbo or from the last time you had THIS turbo in WOT boost?

Brian

 

[6instantaneous6]

Cool. I was going to mention that smoking will occur from a new turbo, downpipe and headers. It is just normal burn-off. If it is billowing or lasts more than a couple of hours - then you should worry. As far as the loss of WOT boost - is that in comparison to your old (stock?) turbo or from the last time you had THIS turbo in WOT boost?

Brian

Not in comparison to my old turbo, its from last time i had THIS NEW turbo boostin. whats happening is as about 2 sec after im in boost, its starts to "sputter" ( i think is the word). example of what i'm talking about... when you're running out of gas in these cars...turbo wont kick in and thats what if feels like. been doin reading and will try out crank sensor, coil pack, wires, ig. module, etc. hopefully i'll figure it out. thanks for everyones input from before.

 

[Boost231]

that sounds like its blowing out spark. what pulgs are you running and what is the gap at?

 

[b_rich24]

Did you check your IC hoses like Boost231 indicated? Always check your basics before you start swapping parts and spending $$.

Check IC hoses; vacuum lines; boost line y connector (swapped?); plug gaps; ensure plug wires are seated properly; follow positive cable to starter and ensure there is no exposure in the wire possibly shorting out under load; follow negative to ground; check tightness at battery posts; check fuel pump ground for tightness and no corrosion or overspray; check hotwire from alt to tank for any exposure. Also, make sure you have a clean fuel filter.
OBTW, did you port match the new turbo to the puck?

Hope any of this helps. Good luck.
Brian

 

[6instantaneous6]

I will be checking all that above tomorrow hopefully as well as the gap on spark plugs.

YES i'm sure i double and triple checked and re-fitting IC hoses, they are good no leaks. OH JUST DAWNED ON ME...i pressure washed the engine bay right before removed old turbo.......think i could have f*cked up the coil pack or ???

-----ohh don't think i port matched the new turbo to puck (what does that mean)

 

[Boost231]

if you pressure washed the motor you could have water somewhere and it needs to dry out. i would check your plug gap and if that checks out then i would start looking into where the water got. plug wires good be grounding out water in the coil pack what in the plug wire tips etc. take a look and get back to use.

 

[b_rich24]

I will be checking all that above tomorrow hopefully as well as the gap on spark plugs.

YES i'm sure i double and triple checked and re-fitting IC hoses, they are good no leaks. OH JUST DAWNED ON ME...i pressure washed the engine bay right before removed old turbo.......think i could have f*cked up the coil pack or ???

-----ohh don't think i port matched the new turbo to puck (what does that mean)

Yeah, you could have doused your ccci module (coil pack). You can open it up and check. Just be sure you know what plug wire goes were (mark before removing) and try not to unhook the wires when you separate the module (you just want to check for standing water and/or corrosion on terminals). Of course, if the terms. look corroded and wet, then clean one at a time - ensuring you reconnect in the right order.

Assuming you have an internal wastegate: the puck is the metal disk on the elbow (stock) or downpipe (aftermarket) that closes off the small hole on the turbo. Grease the puck (usually a carbon build-up gives a tell-tale sign) and reattach wastegate arm to puck lever. Remove arm and elbow and view your grease marking around the hole. Port with dremel or die grinder until you are about 1/16" to edge of grease outline. This will help you control boost levels.

When cleaning a motor, always cover the following: Battery, MAF, Ign Module, Coil Pack/s, Distributor, Alternator, Air filter, Carburator. And do not spray directly around fuel injectors and PCV. Plastic grocery bags are best for this.