They around $400 for the 80gig version and $500 for the 160gig brand new systems. I saw a deal in Wal-mart a couple weeks ago on the 80 gig system for $399 that came with a Wal-Mart gift card for $50 toward anything in the store. The new systems are not backwards compatible (will not play PS1 or PS2 games). Look around craigslist etc. and you can find them anywhere from $300 for on older 20 and 40gig (non backward compatible) system up to $400-$600 for 80 and 60 gig backwards compatible systems with multiple controllers and a few games. I just bought an 80gig backward compatible system that came with 2 wireless controllers, charging stand, headset, wireless keyboard and 2 games for $400. This was an awesome deal.